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  • in reply to: UK Airfield attacks during WWII #1001725
    Steamer Ned
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    As it hasn’t yet been mentioned by those better qualified than I to provide details, may I suggest the inclusion of RAF Filton? Several raids were suffered during WW2, the most notorious being that of 25 September 1940, which resulted in 141 deaths and 438 serious injuries. This raid was carried out by 57 Heinkel 111s, which dropped 350 HE and 24 oil bombs and was said to have lasted just 45 seconds.

    Filton was, of course, a multiple target for the Luftwaffe due to the location of the Bristol Aeroplane Company works, but it also housed a Sector Ops Room within 10 Group of RAF Fighter Command. Several air raid shelters from the period still survive within the boundary of the (sadly) now-closed Filton Airfield.

    in reply to: Reginald Turnhill #998607
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    I’d like to add my regrets at Reg’s passing. In April 1969, I was a very junior press officer at BAC Filton, drafted in from my usual tasks at the Guided Weapons Division to be part of an ‘all hands’ team hosting the media for the UK Concorde first flight. I ended up looking after Reg and his camera/sound crew. It made my day, he was so helpful and professional. For many years after, he’d recognise me and stop for a natter at Farnborough, Le Bourget and the like. A really friendly, intelligent man.

    in reply to: Bristol Aerospace Centre #1010145
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    PM sent.

    in reply to: Possible BAE/EADS merger #2301380
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    Re post #70, I certainly remember Ferranti, having been employed by them from ’79 to ’94. Are you aware of any other British company that bought US defence/security interests and then discovered a massive circular fraud lay at the heart of the largest contract? A bit of a special case, perhaps.

    However, and something you touched on in your post #27, in the current EADS/BAE Systems debate, I’ve so far seen no specific reference to the requirement for a US proxy board to be in place, comprising US citizens only, through which all US defence/security business had to be channelled. The so-called ‘special security agreement’ set up between the UK and US specifically to enable BAE Systems to acquire US assets may perhaps contain this requirement.

    in reply to: British Jetliners 2 – CONCORDE #488534
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    A gracious response V1, especially since my post looks a bit po-faced with hindsight. My only excuse is that I was a junior press officer at Filton in the late sixties and early seventies, so I get a bit protective of the details from what was an exciting time for me … especially looking after Reg Turnill and his BBC crew for the first UK flight in 1969!

    Ned

    in reply to: British Jetliners 2 – CONCORDE #488584
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    V1: re your original post, a couple of corrections.

    De Havilland had no connection with the Concorde programme. The UK progenitor was the Bristol Type 223, which was renamed BAC 223 in 1963 when the UK aircraft industry was rationalised into two groups: British Aircraft Corporation included Bristol, Hawker Siddeley Group included De Havilland.

    The drawing below, which I have posted before in a thread within Historic, was released by BAC in 1969 to illustrate the main similarities/differences between Concorde’s two immediate ancestors.

    in reply to: Is Concorde really a "British" design? (2009 thread) #1131089
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    Hadn’t seen this thread before it was bumped recently. In an attempt to answer the OP question, I’m surprised no one has referred to the Bristol (later BAC) Type 223 and the fact that the eventual Concorde design had elements of both T.223 and the Sud-Aviation Super Caravelle combined – see below. The T.223 was related to the earlier Bristol Type 198, which had six engines and titanium construction.

    Image from Aviation Archive (http://www.aviationarchive.org.uk) which relates it to 1961, and it also appears in a review of the Concorde programme in the Flight Archive for 1965.

    Sorry to intrude on the fun, back to the fanboy fight …

    Ned

    in reply to: Filton's place in history #1114221
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    daveg4otu: Thanks for that. I had found S E Saunders yard together with Sopwith producing the ‘Bat Boat’ in 1913, and another yard (J Samuel White) producing the Wight Seaplane in 1912. Do you know of aircraft production by any yard that eventually became Saunders-Roe before 1912?

    Flanker man: Off topic, but only just noticed in your first pic, on the back shelf, between the sounding rockets (Skylark?) and Concorde, is that a model of the Bristol Type 182R Blue Rapier ‘unmanned bomber’ of 1953? Now, that’s a rarity if it is – almost as rare as the real thing!

    Ned

    in reply to: Filton's place in history #1114794
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    Thanks for the replies to date.

    To Planemike (post#3) I have contacted the Bristol Aero Collection and, as with Airbus etc (Post #2), they don’t have sufficient in-depth info regarding the history of other companies – they’d like to know the answer, too!

    I’ve done my own research into most UK, US and European sites, and haven’t yet found one that beats or even equals Filton’s longevity. For instance, Short Brothers was founded in 1908 at the Isle of Sheppey, but moved several times before establishing in Belfast during 1936.

    Thanks also to Thunderbird167 for the compehensive details for the eighties. I think there might have been some landing gear integration and test towards the end of this period also?

    Ned

    in reply to: Filton's place in history #1116101
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    Just kicking this one out of the weeds for a last attempt to attract the attention of passers-by.

    Over 100 views and not one reply to date – must either be remarkably difficult to answer or of no great interest.

    I have to say that none of Airbus Archive, Rolls-Royce Historical Trust or BAE Systems (current owners/operators of the airfield) had a clue either!

    Ned

    in reply to: Filton as Airfield #803, 9th USAAF #1209435
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    Thanks to all those who’ve responded, as I said previously there’s plenty to be getting on with now.

    Andy: I think you may be right about the location being adjacent to the West Works and A38, judging by the houses in the background of the Footnote pics. It would seem the USAAF might have built their own temporary hangars and removed them in 1946. I’ll PM you soon with some additional details.

    Regards, Ned

    in reply to: Filton as Airfield #803, 9th USAAF #1210646
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    Many thanks, gentlemen, plenty more for me to be getting on with. Incidentally, I’ve identified two more MRRS locations:

    #429 Crookham Common, Berkshire (adjoining Greenham Common) 26th MRRS
    #433 Bishopstrow, Wiltshire (adjoining Kingston Deverill) 30th MRRS

    Regards, Ned

    in reply to: Filton as Airfield #803, 9th USAAF #1210799
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    Thanks, AT. Despite over 100 views, only your input so far! I’ll follow up your suggested Flypast and Liverpool History leads to try and improve my knowledge of the subject.

    Regards, Ned

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