EgbertoThe Russians have annexed South Ossetia and Abkhazia. All they have to do now is pull back with the option of taking out Georgian forces that come within artillery range. There is now the possibility that an international peacekeeping force will de deployed around buffer zones in order to keep the peace. If the peacekeeping force and buffer zones are established it really is game set and match for the Russians over the problem of the disuputed regions.
It is over for Georgia, Russia doesn’t want to talk to the pompous clown of Georgia. This guy was trying to micmic the pompousity of Americans.
There is little chance that the U.S and Israeli, instructors would ever have the desire to train them again for this bloody adventure.
Russia is going to dictate the terms of peacekeeping.
Also writing on the wall for missile defense ambitions of the U.S around Russian borders. Game over.
EgbertoI think McCain has to stop the rhetoric for political gains. He should remember his arms are not completly off yet. He is advocating for throwing Russia out of G8, strong diplomatic action against Russia, NATO arrangement for a peacekeepers mission in South Ossetia– this could be a flash point for confrontation. If he doesn’t know what SS-18 ICBM with 24megaton yield warhead is , the world’s most potent and powerful ICBM and Topol-M is then Vietnam would be a child’s play. I think most Americans and Europeans as well as Rusians wouldn’t like to die for assphole like Georgian shaaskavilli.
The result would be Mutual destruction, but some would be more mutual than others. Remember Russia is 2 times the size ofU.S. There is threshold of destructive sufficiency with NUkes. Russia has more than enough ICBMs and tactical nukes to wipe out Europe and America in a fell swoop. America too has more than enough to wipe Russia out. But if the volleying starts the U.S would be quenched first due to her smaller land mass. And logically who dies first.
Europe is just a peninsular.
EgbertoI think McCain has to stop the rhetoric for political gains. He should remember his arms are not completly off yet. He is advocating for throwing Russia out of G8, strong diplomatic action against Russia, NATO arrangement for a peacekeepers mission in South Ossetia– this could be a flash point for confrontation. If he doesn’t know what SS-18 ICBM with 24megaton yield warhead is , the world’s most potent and powerful ICBM and Topol-M is then Vietnam would be a child’s play. I think most Americans and Europeans as well as Rusians wouldn’t like to die for assphole like Georgian shaaskavilli.
The result would be Mutual destruction, but some would be more mutual than others. Remember Russia is 2 times the size ofU.S. There is threshold of destructive sufficiency with NUkes. Russia has more than enough ICBMs and tactical nukes to wipe out Europe and America in a fell swoop. America too has more than enough to wipe Russia out. But if the volleying starts the U.S would be quenched first due to her smaller land mass. And logically who dies first.
Europe is just a peninsular.
EgbertoStratfor acknowledges Russia defeated US, not Georgian army in South Ossetia
Front page / World / Former USSR
The USA acknowledged that Russia had virtually defeated the US, but not the Georgian army in South Ossetia. US instructors have spent four years training the Georgian army for an attack against Russian citizens. The US administration refused to help Saakashvili, because the true goal of the new game in the Caucasus is absolutely different.
Experts of Stratfor, the so-called Shadow CIA, stated that the Russian army had not only preserved its battling capacity but also proved to the whole world that was it capable of defeating an armed enemy, trained by US instructors.
A report from Stratfor particularly mentions that the operation in South Ossetia has exercised three things. First off, Russia has proved to have the army capable of conducting successful operations, in which many Western observers doubted before. Secondly, the Russians have showed that they can defeat the forces trained by US advisors. Finally, Russia has shown that the USA and NATO do not find themselves in the situation when they can interfere into a conflict from the military point of view.
At the same time, the experts consider it to be a military demonstration of Russia to former republics of the Soviet Union, including Ukraine, the entire Caucasus and Central Asia. In addition, they see a hidden warning to Poland and the Czech Republic against the background of a possible deployment of elements of the US missile defense system in those countries. However, the experts exclude an opportunity for Moscow to organize an intervention against some of the above-mentioned countries.
Stratfor’s statement means that the fight is over for Georgia and that the US administration is not going to cross the red line in its relations with Russia. Saakashvili’s hopes for NATO to become involved in a conflict with Russia went up in smoke.
The USA is pursuing absolutely different goals, and the creation of the Great Georgia is surely not on its list. The Republicans organized the provocation to portray Russia as a monster on the globe on the threshold of the November elections. This plays into the hands of John McCain, who openly says that “Russia’s imperial ambition” needs to be curbed.
This way or other, the USA has used the small country of Georgia as a toy.
EgbertoVice Presidet Dick Cheney told Saakashvili in a telephone conversation “that Russian aggression must not go unanswered,” his office said in a statement.
Why all mouth-running from Dick Cheney, they gave Georgia false sense of security and support as if they would come to their aid militarily before the pompous clown went on this adventure and again his why?
Egbertowhat fighters has Georgia then? On CNN I saw their defense budget is $997 million why can’t they purchase at least 2-5 F-15’s from their ally U.S from this?. Or perhaps just, just and only just get one invisible F-22 fighter from the buddy U.S to harmonize all defense capabilities?
EgbertoIf Georgia was a NATO member, there wouldn’t have been Russian troops stationed inside Georgia, so Georgia wouldn’t have any reason to try to evict them.
Russian peacekeepers would always be in South Ossetia even if Georgia became part of NATO. Russians are there to protect Russians in South Ossetia.
EgbertoActually if Georgia were part of NATO Russia wouldn’t have attacked. How is not having a war “madness” compared to having one?
Let that happen and see the reaction. Any single dead Russian by any nation on mother who first initiates the aggression would require immediate response from Russia, you must be joking it means WWWIII and you know Georgia wouldn’t be given the chance to play such foolery by NATO if she were a member.
EgbertoThis is beginning to look very much like the Sudetenland or Anschluss, all over again. And just as then, nobody is willing to stand up in opposition
And State Department officials made it clear on Saturday that there was no chance the United States would intervene militarily.
Never,Never, and wouldn’t and can’t.
Read http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/world/europe/10diplo.html
“We’ve placed ourselves in a position that globally we don’t have the wherewithal to do anything,” Mr. Friedman of Stratfor said. “One would think under those circumstances, we’d shut up.”
One senior administration official, when told of that quote, laughed. “Well, maybe we’re learning to shut up now,” he said. He asked that his name not be used because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the issue.”
EgbertoIf Georgia would be part of NATO Russia would not have intervened avoiding a direct confrontation with NATO.
If Georgia was part of NATO, Georgia wouldn’t have provoked Russia, because NATO wouldn’t allow that to happen also avoiding a direct conflict with Russia.
EgbertoI’m glad Georgia isn’t in NATO. Can you imagine the mess if this had started when those US Marines were there?
What an idiot move this attack is! Did Saakashvili expect Russia would run home with its tail between its legs?
Sakashvili always thought his NATO friends would come to his aid in any such
confrontaton with Russia. Always the U.S and NATO gave this man the false impression that they would come to his aid in any such encounter.
And Rice said that the U.S commitment to Georgia about her territorial intergrity is unshakable, empty words though.
EgbertoAnd who else thinks that it’s funny that ten single-warhead missiles in Poland are suddenly such a massive threat to Russia’s strategic nuclear force?
Don’t be a hypocrite, and don’t think Russians are imbeciles who wash their faces upwards and not downwards when they are awoke in the morning.
Do you know the function of radars ?
EgbertoIf Russians want to live, their leaders must behave.
If Russia would start WWIII over some radars’ they’re insane.
I have nothing gainst Russians and the fault is not theirs, but their leaders.
Repeat as necessary.
Yes,they are insane,but not as overly insane as American leaders drunken
with sense of complacency plagued with superiority syndrome.
But remember Russia is twice the size of America, by the game is over there would be some left walking in the forest in siberia picking up their pieces but certainly with doses of radiation.
EgbertoIf a cowboy wants to put a pistol close to the head of another cowboy, what
does he expect from him. A pistol would be pointed back. The only solution is to stop dreaming of placing those missiles and radars in Eastern Europe expecially Poland and Czech. People have to understand that Russia is not preventing the U.S from not defending herself. Why can’t the missiles and radars be in Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria , Italy and even Azerbaidjan a convenient location for this missiles.
The U.S wants these to locate this radars in this location to monitor ICBM launches from Russia a mere provocation. What at all does the U.S hope to achieve on the planet, — a solely chosen nation by the almighty God on mother to rule mankind and have absolute dominium over all earthlings?
Russia is dead serious now, America should put or you shut up. I don’t know if the U.S and Americans know what Russia is. And for that matter what nuke is.
Mutual destruction, they the Russians have nothing to loose, annihilation would be mutual. If Americans want to live, their leaders must behave,
I am sorry I have nothing against Americans and the fault is not theirs, but their leaders.
EgbertoHi Mr. GaryB
but it would have needed to have been made of more expensive materials like Titanium and they probably would not have been able to make enough to cover their territory.
I want an insight from you.
The Soviets or the Russians have titanium in abundance, they even sold titanium to the U.S for the manufacture of SR-71 and still sell titanium to Boieng for aircraft manufacture. Why couldn’t they use a lot of this themselves,if they originally possess this metal?
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