Hi guys,
Thought you might like to see the most recent Frantisek combat report which is coming up for auction.
Here’s the link to it
http://auctions.alexautographs.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=41+++++++949+&refno=+++65899
Whoever did this one made a silly mistake as far as I can see. Can anyone else spot it?
Ian
I know its an old thread but just in case you’re still looking for info on Thomas Neville Stack try this link.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1949/1949%20-%200385.html
Ian
Thanks Longshot for the Air Britain extract. He landed on a field at Marchwood which was occupied by a Barrage Balloon company but it isn’t yet clear if he was making for Southampton Newforest.
Thanks for posting the French article Wieesso and the translation l.garey. It makes interesting background material.
I am looking into the the reason why he was able to make the trip without German or RAF intervention but, as you say avion ancien, this seems to be the only one which slipped through the net which is why I am researching it. I think the trip had German approval and the RAF missed it probably, as you suggest Longshot because he was flying low and not leaving a large enough radar signature.
I don’t have any info on Le Coq’s post war activities so his 1958 ownership of the Falcon is very useful avion ancien.
Regarding the Swift being impressed the only info I have is that an enquiry was made in January 1943 by a Flt. Lt Marks. Since I have no more info on Marks that isn’t particularly helpful.
Regards
Ian
Thanks for that avion ancien. I am currently researching the story of why and how it returned to the UK and I will make sure that it is posted here when I have finished it. I haven’t seen the Air Britain archive article . If anybody has a copy I wonder if you would be kind enough to post any info relating to this particular aircraft. I can’t say for sure that it was used by the RAF during the war. All I have been able to find out so far is that they expressed some interest in taking it over around 1942 or 1943 I believe.
I don’t know when it was withdrawn from use Blue Max. I’m afraid at the moment that is part of the mystery. I can confirm that it was Lucien Lecoq who brought it over to England during the war. Interesting too that the CAA have it as destroyed or permanently withdrawn in 1934 Newforest. In fact I have seen one account that suggests that it was written off before it went to France but I don’t think that was, in fact, the case although I am still checking this aspect.
Regards
Ian
Sorry Bill. Unfortunately not but thanks for IDing her.
Ian
Hi Mark,
Well I can’t really add an awful lot although I’m told that WJ640 was totally scrapped including the cockpit. I think it was broken up in Egham, Surrey. Now I’ve read those other threads you mention it seems that the story I was given was fairly accurate. My friend thought the Canberra cockpit may not have been used in the film but it seems that it was.
Ian
OK I just checked out the story of the Canberra cockpit at Pinewood. This is what I have been told. It seems that it definitely wasn’t WJ640. That and a sister aircraft (serial number not known) were broken up at Cosford and nothing survived.
Apparently the Canberra cockpit which was at Pinewood was bought around 1997 specifically for the 1999 film ‘Wing Commander’. It was bought from Mike Grant, an aircraft dealer, in Shamley Green, Surrey. Apparently it was shipped over to Luxembourg but probably wasn’t actuallu sed in the film. Subsequently it was bought by one off the film’s producers and shipped to the USA.
At the same time 10 Lightning cockpits were acquired from Saudi through Keith Smith of Marine Salvage. The first two were cut in half at Pinewood and converted into Rapier jets which featured in the film. I am attaching a drawing of one of these. In all 8 cocockpits were cut up and converted into Rapiers. After the film they were sold to a Japanese Theme Park.
Well that’s the story. I hope I’ve got it right!.
Ian
Sorry Cees. Unfortunately not
Ian
Sorry Fouga. I think it all went but I’ll check when I return the photos.
Ian
Now we have Canberra WJ640 which was broken up on site at Cosford. There were quite a few pictures of each stage of its sad demise including engines etc but I picked out a few which I thought encapsulated the whole operation. Here they are:
Ian
A friend of mine used to break up aircraft and just showed me his photo album so I’ve scanned a few to post on the forum for anyone who may be interested. First up is a Folland Gnat. No serial number unfortunately but I guess you air detectives will come up trumps!
Ian
OK Trickshot.
Many thanks
Ian
G-ADBL
Hi Mark,
I just looked it up. I saw the Scimitar at Coley’s on the 6th August 1958. There was also a Tiger Moth (G-AIHO), 22 Hunters and 74 Harvards.
Regards
Ian
Hi Mark,
Great photos.
My memory isn’t that good but it looks like the Scimitar photographed at Coley’s. Is that right? Was it 1958 or later?
Regards
Ian
Scrapyards
Mark
Wow- You’re right. Nearly 50 years ago! I think I was a bit hasty suggesting that the Harvard in the background was KF388. I think it was more likely to have been KF343 (P-Q) but it’s still only a guess.
Pagen01- Sorry no pics. Only wish I had. I think I took a piece of it for a souvenir but it’s long gone I’m afraid.
Best
Ian