Manual is not numbered but dated 1944 with 1948 revisions. Here is the small, simple illustration of dampener in it. Sorry for poor quality – it’s a pretty weighty book to control for scanning/photographing!
Edit – looked at video again. Agreed it does look like a different, longer style dampener.
That is a very interesting design of flame dampener!
However, not what we are looking for.
The 1000 page manual I saw referred to a extension that was not a dampener, nothing specific to dampener.
Found another image, more detail, only just (from Dover AFB site)
The Flame Dampeners are mentioned in the Douglas C-47 Maintenance Manual – it states that “2 are shipped with the aircraft as loose items… fastened into place by screwing bolts into the nut plates built into the exhaust tail pipe.”
It mentions the use for night flying as you said but doesn’t say anything about effect on noise.
Very interesting! I will see if I can find something online.
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SO that suggest it is a Douglas part?
EDIT: Looked at manual, showed something different.
Have manual number?
Michael Hjorth, thank you very much for going though effort and posting!
Very few would take the time, and this is still a very valuable piece of history, both the aircraft, but the perils of recovery, lessons in how things can go very wrong, and how nature slowly takes back what we build.
I bet the thawing and freezing of the lake is source of some damage, buckling of the engine nacelle for instance.
Also the bent prop may be wind blowing hulk until it hit object with prop and bet it. Only 1 I see bent.
PS Michael Hjorth, I would rather jump out of airplane with parachute than “finger jam” on cliff any day!!!
Correct. There was a big number of complaints to Greenemyer over the way he handled the whole “mission” including the way he just left the remains. I’ve also heard that the family of Rick Kriege, who sadly died during the attempted rescue of the Kee, have sued Daryll on the grounds that he overworked him. Not sure how that ended up, but i’ve read many articles all saying that Greenemyer is known as quite unprofessional and stupid and is not respected in the aviation industry much.
I always had a funny feeling about him at the way he just sat there and watched the Kee burn to the ground without much emotion.
I’d be completely in bits seeing such a beautiful piece of engineering burn in front of me.
I met Daryll (and Ascher Ward) in Tulsa as they where transferring a YC-125 to NMUSAF.
Did not strike me as “professional”, more seat of pants will see if everything works as we go kind of guy.
I have added three more columns, Location – Country, Location – City/Town and GPS
Cheers
Jaws
Great job!
The site Preserved Axis Aircraft also added codes on status, as in Display, Storage, Partial, Restoration, etc.
Flying Pencil, the section in Munich is an A300 fuselage if I remember correctly. I had the same thought initially, having seen it there last year.
Ah, I cross linked the two I guess.
Very doable and looks real.
And its Red Bull, why ruin reputation with fakery?
Suggest you have a “Current location” columns and list city.
Deutsches Museum of Munich has full 747 cross section just behind cockpit. (hope I did not confuse with Science Museum of London)
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No, it is SM of L
See it here
Thanks for sharing! Good to see even lesser important aircraft fly.
BTW, what is that black tail I see in background? P-39?
Was going to post this myself, but kept getting pulled away.
Already put a chunk of change for this restoration ($300!).
Rare to find something with such history.
Hi Flying Pencil,
This came from just out the front of the RAAF “Flying Boat Base” in East Arm, just next to the Z Force base and Lugger Maintenance Section. A new barge ramp is being built and so we’ve done some dive recovery of objects before construction starts. It’s mostly aluminium alloy, with the bracket etc., being essentially cast with an aluminium sheet wrapped round it. Thank you for your suggestions re. Dornier and Shorts; I hadn’t looked into either (I’m obsessed with PBYs and get a bit blinded). I shall do that now. Thank you!
Could you give a Google Map link for location? Thanks.
Hi,
I wonder if anyone could help me, I am currently building a 1/10th scale R/C ‘Dambusters’ BIII Lancaster, the main airframe is complete and she has flown and I am now moving on to detailing
My target it is to have reasonably detailed (not scale) partially operating turrets front and rear, I have drawn and had printed the FN5 front turret and completed its cupola and am most of the way through drawing the rear turret.
I am one important detail missing though, where is the ammunition stowed? where does it come from? I have collected many pictures of the FN20 but none show clearly the floor area immediately below the ammunition belt drops.
Does anyone have a picture of this area? I have tried everywhere including writing to Duxford so any help would be appreciated
You can see my build thread here – http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1918147
Maiden here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRtrgGncIcU
Animated FN5 here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMLPb3RFJUY
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I believe this is a Wellington version which simply has the ammo boxes attached to the floor –
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My 3D printed FN5 model –
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With Cupola fitted
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Ammunition comes up through guides and up over curved fences but where does it come from?
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Super impressive! What mfg tech today can do! (3D printing).
Who did the CAD art??
What would really be awesome is find a museum where the model can be hung and operated to show how it was.
Always worth wasting just a little more time on google:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bendix-Upper-Turret-Casting-B-25-Army-Air-Corps-8th-Air-Force-RARE-B-17-B-24-/251860250101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa40a6df5&nma=true&si=55Yvt3smastYCzdalr9cFcpuuhc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Awesome job with find, Ian!
Now, who has Bendix turret manual??
Search found this tantalizing image
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from here:
I am guessing that roller is somewhat common to Bendix turrets.
Find out which on the PBY has, I think only the nose mount would be Bendix.
More shameful Zeppelin bits, with a mod plate. Someone is knocking out a lot of those ‘Theatre of War’ labels.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111676505247?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
so “Whitehall Theater of War” and “London Museum War” are completely fake?
(versus Imperial War Museum, which is real)
Also for maintaining Plex, recommend:
http://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/plexus-plastic-cleaner-13-oz.html
Well, where did you find this in Darwin?
What are the materials?
Cast parts?
I believe a Do-24 was sunk in Darwin harbor, and they did operate out of Darwin.
Also Short’s aircraft too.