Is it?
I am skeptical.
Looks more like a “bolted to wing” tank, not a drop tank.
Mossies used those, didn’t they?
You guys are going on as if this is where the Burmese Spits ended up.
Similarly N2231 is likewise being maintained in the U.S.A by the Commonwealth Air Force who still fly it on occasions at their air shows.
“Commonwealth”?? :D:D:D:D
Slip of tongue I guess, or auto spell.
Commemorative.
Cool info!
Thanks for enlightening us!
NMUSAF is “National Museum of the US Air Force” the official name for the USAF Museum at Wright-Patterson for the last 20-odd years.
National Museum of the United States Air Force (formerly the United States Air Force Museum (USAFM))
I see where my confusion is now.
I’m an old fuddy duddy. :apologetic:
I always see NM as New Mexico, and (slap forehead) Pima is in AZ.
I am working way to hard….. :apologetic:
It seems like NMUSAF wanted more acronyms in name just to be special! :p
I’ll gladly clean our your garage/shed/attic/pillow stuffing!
Let me come around right now!
:cool:;):D
(long away from Texas)
From Joe Braugher’s site….
48-626 (MSN 2510) on display at USAF Museum, marked as 48-622
48-632 (MSN 2516) to civil registry as N2570B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami. Leased by Surinam (Surinaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij – SLM) from Ambrose Aviation as PZ-TAO, Jun 11, 1959 nosed over Coeroeni, repaired. Jan 12, 1959 Kayser Mountains Airstrip; nosed over again. Repaired and flown back but severely damaged during bad landing. Registered CP-650 with South American Placers of Bolivia, w/o Mar 1, 966 in bad landing at Caranavi, Bolivia
48-634 (MSN 2518) to civil registry as N3756Q. Crashed on takeoff at Tulsa International Airport, Oklahoma Jun 29, 1988 while on flight to Wright Pattersn AFB, Dayton, OhioIt seems my first post was correct, that the one in Dayton is not the repaired plane that crashed in Tulsa. If c/n 2518 was not repaired and isn’t the example at the NMUSAF, then there might be remains of it in Tulsa.
Your first post is not clear, as you keep say New Mexico USAF (NMUSAF), not USAFM.
AFAIK, the Pima Raider was flow in and put in display.
After 2518 was badly damaged, another Raider was found and put on display, trucked in (per Jay’s post in WIX).
As for 2518, the last few pieces of it are literally in my attic, except for the yokes which Ascher or Darryl took.
Operationally, it was designed as a Arctic rescue aircraft, possibly the same specification to the USAF developing the Piasecki H-21 Workhorse.
An aircraft that was restored and enroute to the NMUSAF crashed/force landed on its delivery flight. That was sometime in the 80s.
I don’t think it was repaired…but judging by the damage photos I saw at the time, there still could be “substantial remains”.
The event was covered by American historic aviation magazines at the time, so perhaps someone at WIX could come up with an identity.UPDATE: Here’s a link to the WIX discussion on the aircraft…it seems the plane that crashed was repaired and is the example now on display at the MNUSAF….
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17753&start=0And here’s an Aviation Safety database link concerning the crash of one in Bolivia (cn 2516) in 1966:
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=26974And the 1988 crash of the NMUSAF aircraft (c/n 2518)::
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880629-1In both instances the ac are identified only by the c/ns.
But if the c/ns correspond with the USAF serials, then the Bolivia crash ac is 48-624.Here’s an AP story on the 1988 crash:
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1988/Plane-Bound-For-Air-Force-Museum-Crashes-On-Takeoff/id-524f49eafcd89142ed07c38abc304ef6
I was there when #2518 came to Tulsa, took pics of it while it was there for paint for the USAFM, and then after the crash and its eventual turning into a big pile of aluminum pieces.
Called a bunch of museums who might be interested, no takers.
Still have a big pile of pieces from it, saved from scrapper.
Oh, and Darryl and Co. also stripped cockpit of anything of value too.
What they told me:
Came from Houston area, either Conroe, or as goodall.com.au site says Hitchcock.
Tulsa for paint on way to USAFM.
This was not destined for NM/Pima, I think they already had one, saw it a year later in 1989.
There was a recent article in Jan 2013 issue of Warbirds International.
It was a Fugly airplane, but had blown flaps with, IIRC, 40* of drop giving is a very low stall speed but unfortunate habit of flipping on its back.
When I worked on C-17 just over a year later, lo and behold it had the same blown flaps!!!
I was every impressed with what it could do, very very roomy for a 1947 design, easily carry any vehicle, a tall person could walk upright anywhere inside.
Its another Dornier!
Quick, call RAFM!
Fender off a 44 MG.
Wot, your serious??
Spectacular accident Sunday afternoon on the airfield of Darois.
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Oh, that news hyperbole.
Blown tire and its front page news!
I too am happy its a relatively minor mishap and the only injury is a red face and reputation.
Didnt read all the threads, but:
Did Grumman aircraft name their ships first?
Or did Grumman decide to name them after the British did?
Wildcat (Martlet in FAA)
Avenger (Tarpon)
Hellcat
Thread has grown!
Next time I am in jolly old UK, mind if I get some left seat time in 27? :love-struck:
All that money spent, working airplane that was a technical achievement, and they decided to scrap the lot of them
😡
:confused: http://www.lincsbombercommandmemorial.com/
Charlie – I also agree with Mike J’s comment, please see post #21; WADR you also underestimate the team behind the Canwick project and for clarity I’m not one of them!
Was an Internet outage from UK it seems. Could not get to any UK sites, but US and perhaps others no problem.
All good now. 🙂