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  • in reply to: The immortal Herk, for all your pics 'n propaganda #2658373
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    Hey Maroc
    You are a liar! Thats not a Morrocan Hercules, thats a Soviet era transport plane used in Afghanistan, I saw it on James Bond film “The living daylights”

    😀

    in reply to: Agni II #2058810
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    Vishal Thapar
    New Delhi, August 31

    Six years after it entered the nuclear club with Pokhran-II, India is still not ready with its missile-based nuclear delivery systems, the outgoing chief of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), V.K. Aatre, confirmed on Tuesday.

    The upshot of Aatre’s admission at a press conference is that India is still a long way from acquiring credible nuclear deterrence. On his last day in office, he said the Sunday launch of the Agni-II intermediate-range ballistic missile was “to train the army” to fire the nuclear-capable weapon.

    The Agni-II is India’s most potent nuclear delivery vehicle, which, going by Aatre’s disclosure, is not operational. The army, which will be handling the Agnis, had never fired this missile before. Similarly, the July 4 launch of the 700-km Agni A-I too was to tutor the army in firing the missile. “At present, we are handing over the Agni series missiles to the army,” Aatre said.

    The army has created two missile groups to handle the Agni A-I and Agni-II respectively. When asked if the DRDO was part of the groups, Aatre said: “We will be part of the missile groups if necessary.”

    Sources also conceded that the 3,000 km-plus Agni-III missile was still “six months to a year away from its first test-firing”.

    This means that, at present, India’s only option for nuclear retaliation is air-delivered glide bombs from the IAF’s Jaguar, Mirage and Sukhoi-30 fleets. Submarine-launched ballistic missiles — the best option — are nowhere on the horizon.

    Elaborating on his admission that the Agnis will take time to be operationalised, Aatre said, “There will be test-firing of the Agni missiles every year (in the near future).” However, he insisted that the development process of the Agni series and guidance systems was complete.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_981300,0008.htm

    in reply to: Air India to Cancel A340 Proposal Order #665239
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    Sum-total of AirPower’s posts:
    Present govt in India: Really bad
    BJP: Only slightly less venerable than God

    Yes I can critcize the govts in India, as it is a democracy – you see that is how it works, we don’t pin our hopes on a tinpot dictator ;). What is your problem with that?

    Anyone non-Indian (hint: Pakistan): Bad
    Not anyone, just the lame Pakistani posters on this forum

    Pakistan: Very, very, very BAD! (and terrorists!, to boot )

    Glad you admit that, that is the first step to recovery for the terrorist jehadi, now reform yourself 🙂

    Airpower
    You give yourself and Indians a bad name, thankfully there are enough decent Indians around to make up for clowns like you, the fact that sarcasm is also lost on you really sums things up, you even take your hatred and fear of other countries into a thread on commercial airliners….

    in reply to: Pakistan to test new cruise missile #2058888
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    No idea mate, could have go help from South Africa, China, Ukraine, or entirely domestic, yet I doubt it, cruise missile technology is not easy stuff……

    in reply to: Photos of airplanes shot down by missiles (SAM or AAM) #2659317
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    The fact that the missile was fired by Pakistani troops, they, of all people should know what they fired. End of story.

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662640
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    Neeraj
    posted by Harry

    “those are not solely air launched, as with the Sea Eagle. Production itself did’nt close down and supply of a batch of rounds to the IN from BAe, was quite recent.”

    he refers to “quite recent” what he omits is that probably about 10 years old!

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662656
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    I sure can read English. Brahmos is part of the debate. Didn’t you post
    “Brahmos not expected in service for quite a while…..”
    I was responding to that..

    Added later – I just went through the first page of this topic. Why is it necessary for India to get a fresh batch of sea eagles. The existing lot is quite servicable. In fact it makes sense for IN not to go in for sea eagle as Brahmos is now in production.

    Yes, Neeraj, I agree, its pointless, but Harry and Karan claimed that theyhad, I simply pointed out that they were lying…….IN has NOT recieved any new Sea Eagles!

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662667
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    Neeraj
    I assume you can read English, I asked for a Sea Eagle link.

    Harry and Karna claimed that IN had recently aqquired Sea Eagles. This is blatantly false as they have been out of manufacture for some time. I asked for a link, they cannot provide one, what on earth has Bramhos got to do with the debate I am having with them?

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662687
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    [QUOTE=neeraj]

    Karna
    If you read my posts, I did not “throw a fit”, I simply asked you for a link with…QUOTE]

    Here is a link – exclusivly for you (and for your use)Link for PAF Fan

    Neeraj
    I am debating and providing evidence for my points, all I ask is that others do the same, when you cant do this you link to a baby store page, why is it so hard for some people to prove or give evidence for any claims they make?

    Indias anti-ship missile stock (till Bramos enters service) is ancient compared to Pakistans newly delivered sub and air launched Exocets and Harpoons.

    I have provided links and evidence outlining Harpoon deliveries and can provide links showing new Exocet deliveries, I have also now provided a link showing India has not recived any Sea Eagles for at least 10 years, which begs the question if it has any servicable missiles……..

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662692
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    Quite some envy you have there my infantile friend.

    I dont recall mentioning that “others had cheap parts”. In fact, its rather clear that you, are usual, being dishonest. Quite a cheap attempt at trolling.

    Kindly leave your medical personal issues and angst out of an aviation thread.

    As for the rest- its quite well catalogued that:

    1. India is standardising on the Brahmos A for its next gen ASM.

    2. The Su 30 MKI’s are KH 31 and KH59 capable.

    3. The Su 30MKI’s are earmarked for a Naval role as well and the Bars radar can simultaneously engage two targets.

    4. The IN has quite current Sea Eagle missile stocks as a result of which it has standardised the Sea Eagle across the board- from the Il38 Mays to the Mk42 Sea Kings.

    According to this website India has not recived any Sea Eagles since 1997…

    http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029395474

    Brahmos not expected in service for quite a while…..

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662776
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    1. Indian missile stocks are kept current through periodic refurbishment.
    Ask Harry for details if you wish.

    2. India’s future is the Brahmos and specialist versions of Russian ASM’s like the KH 59M and the KH 31 A. These are directly tied to the Su30 MKI which is assuming the Naval strike role as well. Note this article from Nov 2003 itself.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/326851.cms

    3. Indian Naval Aviations LRMP’s also have the option of integrating the Klub.
    But most credible Indian sources (Vayu Aerospace Review) note that the Brahmos A has pipped the Klub and will be the de facto standard.

    Karna
    Do you actually bother to READ my posts? NO!?

    I take it there has not been any new Sea Eagle deliveries as you are now mentioning completely different missiles!

    OK, will stop posting now seeing as you, Harry, Indian or Air Power make claims about IN having new Sea Eagles but cannot provide a link…….

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662785
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    Has the deal been signed yet?

    The FMS is but a proposal.

    A lot of FMS stuff to India is yet to see the light of the day.
    Hardly certain.

    Pak may hold out again for something else….

    Karna
    Believ what you want, but right now I have provided links and info, and apart from lots of hot air, whenever I ask any of teh Indian posters to provide links they go all quiet, why!?

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662789
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    it doesnt matter at all. with their obsolete 20 yr old kit the PN P3 are short sighted & toothless to use any missile to its full advantage.

    the discussion is academic. there is nothing to compare between IN and PN. the PN will get wiped off the map in a few days or seek shelter in saudi ports its their choice.

    PN trying equal-equal is like a 6 yr old kid punching the local boxing
    champ in the knee (highest point he can reach) and ‘demanding’ a showdown.

    I have already shown there’s no notification of P3 sale and lord knows
    how many years the process to get more refurbished ones will take. even the PN chief says he is in no hurry. PN gets the poorest funding in pak – a fact which explains the rags its wearing currently.

    Sun launched and air launched Harpoon?
    Agosta 90B
    4 Jiangwei ships signed for
    Phalanax CWIS

    Sorry, I don think any modern Navy expert would consider this kit “obsolete”….

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662793
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    Get your facts straight. The British do not operate the air launched AM-39. At the same time, there’s no such thing as a ship or sub launched Sea-Eagle. I’m sure Jonsey can tell you how valued the Sea Eagle was, as a part of British inventory and how they’d still love to have it.

    Based upon the results from the Iran-Iraq tanker war, AM-39 variants prior to the block-2 upgrade, which itself was’nt very comprehensive, were clearly rubbish. A single shot from a Corvus chaff launcher, was enough to safely deflect the missile, during the Falklands conflict. Sheffeild only sunk because reactionary measures were’nt taken due to low response time.

    Advanced versions of the Harpoon, are clearly irrelevant to the current context because the PN does’nt operate any. While the Harpoon may be further developed by Boeing, India has gone the Brahmos way.

    That’s ECCM, not EW, genius. Active/passive EW suites are for aircraft to use in full time roles!

    But after the lifting of sanctions.

    No Harry, there has not been a single Sea Eagle sale that I know of……link?

    in reply to: IAF News and Pics (Aug 2004 onwards) #2662801
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    When did PA get a *new* order for Harpoons?

    Batch was released under Brown ammendment in 1998, here is the link

    http://www.fas.org/news/pakistan/1995/951206-416984.htm

    By the way, I cannot find a single peice of information that India has anything other then 10 year old Sea Eagles and there have been no new recent orders

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