Ahhhh, the inevitable dig at Pakistan in a totally un related thread……….you really are obsessed with us arent you!?

IAF MIGs dropping out the sky constantly yet someone in a glass house chooses to throw stones!

..in keeping with the greater number of IAF ground attack sorties.
I see that a lot of a/c were lost attacking PAF strongholds like sargodha…if IAF had chosen not to press home multiple attacks their losses would have been less…but damage within india by PAF a/c freed up for strike duties would be more. you choose the best of two alternatives and do what you can.

PAF also got in a couple of good strikes in 65 with serious losses on the
ground.

(and I am not getting into an argument on kills, claims and sources)..but
thats the general trend – unless one has total airsuperiority or very superior A2G a/c then losses will climb with the number of A2G sorties.

Indian
It does not really matter, the point has been proven, forget mission profiles, the pure facts speak for themselves

Indian
I never denied that, its just a bit of a cheek to call the thing a “Sabre Slayer”, the score stood at 12 Gnats shot down by PAF and 17 PAF aircraft lost to Gnats, not exactky decisive is it!?

Oh, almost forgot, another PAF ACM, had an encounter with a Gnat too!

He forced it to land without firing a shot! Fl Lt Hakimullah

http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/airforce/war/gnat.html

Lets not forget the Folland Gnat, this fighter proved itself in combat as the Sabre Slayer for the IAF. It is still a very potent fighter and can still hold itself against most anything at low level. I believe should be put back in production as a low cost point defence fighter, as well as for pilot flight time to reduce cost and wear on front line fighters.

Dude
PAF lost a grand total of 5 Sabres to the “Sabre Slayer”……..

Flying around 11,000 miles to do an OP-TEMPO LIVEX at the end? Really?! 😮

The novelty of the IAF deployment, and the circuitous route being undertaken, are why I thought it deserved a separate thread (see Eric’s post earlier). I’m sure there will be plenty more pics as the exercise kicks off to go in here too, which is why I didn’t lump it under IAF Defence News etc.

You’re right I1973, I’ve since seen a news item that mentioned Newfoundland in Canada so they’ll most likely be heading for Gander AB tomorrow and not an East Coast US AFB.

What’s really frustrating for me now I know that they’re en route to Gander is that I wish they’d flown the “northern route” via the UK and Iceland! :sigh: Maybe they’ll return home that way via a couple of days at Fairford for RIAT 😀

Best regards

Steve Rush ~ Touchdown-News

Steve
RAF Tornado ADV deployed straight after Gulf War one were on caps in Saudi Arabia with 12 hours after deploying, probably similar stories with F-16s and F-15s of the USAF……

Oh stop whining already, it’s getting irritating. Go post in your FC1 thread.

Whats irritating is there are 5-6 Indian threads, some even onb teh same subject, such is the thirst for self congratulations some have…..