Originally posted by Steve Touchdown
I’m pretty sure the Hueys and the 407s will be used for border security, anti-narcotics and what’s now being termed “anti-terrorism” support for mobile army units: what used to be called COIN (counter insurgency) in “tribal” areas on the Afghanistan border. It could even be that the Ministry of Interior will provide oversight for some of these rather than the Ministry of Defence/Army.Sure, a Black Hawk has far better reange and payload than a Huey (even if Pakistan decides to go for the upgrade to Huey II spec) but a basic UH-60L is going to cost around $10/11 million a piece without anything fitted (even engines) and no spares or training support. I’m sure if the Pakistan Gvmt came up with half a billion dollars then Congress would approve 50 Black Hawks for them 😀
Best regards
Good point! There are several other projects that $500 mil could be better spent on, suppose it will have to be free Hueys and Cobras for now!
Steve Rush ~ Touchdown-News
Originally posted by matt
if the shoe fits… dunno about USSR.. but i know the Yanks supported the IRA and still do.. they even helped fund them! And the prob train them..
Matt
USSR supported some dodgy “terror orgs” during the 70s, when it comes to this non of the super powers were whiter then white…..
Originally posted by matt
I dont care as long as a rag tag militia or terror org dont get them.. or even a country that uses terror orgs or funds then dont get them i am happy.
So that rules out the US and USSR who supported severak terror orgs in the past then!?
cheers for that steve!
I dont understand the need for 40 206s and 40 UH-1Hs! Would 40-60 Blackhawks be better!?
Will be waiting for you! With lots of proof! Its late here in the UK so you will forgive me if I take a break too! All this typing away and making you look like a fool can be very tiring!
Roma Victor!!!!!!!!
Of course it does not mean that, but teh fact remains a majority of them are, teh days of mercs flying their planes are long gone and the process of “Saudisation” complete!
Originally posted by sharmaji
Access to the best technology?yes but the US has to let them first and those French maintainace workers have to be willing to work during war time 😀
Their AWACS and F-15s count as good technology to me! Maybe not to you but to me!
Now go home and write a letter to
Ministry of Defence, Kingdom of Saudia Arabia,
“Dear sir
Aplogies for claiming Saudi pilots are crap, I had no proof, I was wrong and got humiliated on a forum……one day, when I pass puberty, I may actually start thinking about what I wrote. In teh mean time please pass on my apologies to the pilots of the RSAF and the people of Saudi Arabia”
signed
A Clown
Er………lets not run away from what the topic is! Mercs make up less and less of teh RSAF now as we all know! The majority of RSAF pilots are Saudi, want me to prove this two you and prove you wrong again!? It would be my pleasure! The RSAF pilot who shot down two Iraqi Mirage F-1s was a Saudi you clown! Not Jordanian, not Egyptian, not Pakistani….but Saudi! Now live with it!
Originally posted by sharmaji
PAF fan, what is the rep of pakdef posters around here, make me ad flex look like clowns, they are good, you are right, The Saudi Air Force is great, its so good and they have so many skilled pilots that they need foreigners to fly and maintain their planes.Read all my posts
My argument has always been that they are impotent!
You are theclown who brought India up, lol, see how many people told you to get lost, lol
good bye
Sharmaji! Must you go!? I was having sop much fun! 🙂
You mean your not going to ACTUALLY PROVE anything you said!?
Such a shame!
Yes, Saudi pilots are good! They are skilled, well trained and have acess to the most modern equipment! Glad we can finally lay the debate to rest…and no hard feelings hey!? 🙂
Sharmaji
Flex asked me if I had a problem with you being Hindu, he posted it if you read his posts, I replied I dont care what religion you are, have you actually read the posts!?
With respect, I dont really care about your experiances, I asked how does this make Saudi pilots crap! I am well aware they have a shortage of skilled labour and import labour, but that does not make the few people who are skilled any less competent! The story does not end here……you have lost teh argument my friend! You have no proof anmd your lies have been exposed! Period!
Originally posted by sharmaji
What kind of air force hires foreign mercenaries?
For a country that rich, you would think that their education system would be good enough to chum out qualified pilots!They have few skilled pilots, that is a bad thing, that makes the force impotent especially when you face the best air force in the world across your border.
Besides forget about the pilots, who will maintain the planes when there is war, the French maintainance workers?
lol
Nice try Sharmaji, but llets stick the subject and the focus of this debate, I am enjoying making you and flex look like clowns! 🙂
You are talking about “PILOT QUALITY”, giving me a Israel supporters website aint proof buddy……..
Originally posted by sharmaji
http://www.aijac.org.au/updates/Feb-02/040202.html😀 no problem
No problem indeed! The Australian-Israel Jewish Affairs Council!?
You really are jerking me aint you!? 🙂
You really want to use that as “proof”!?
Tut, tut………
Flex, you have given me no proof, just hearsay and dodgy conclusions, Isreal has a very small pool of skilled manpower, its pilots are good! The vast majority of Pakistanis are unskilled, our pilots are good, how can your logic here is fundementally flawed!
If Saudi lacks skilled workforce it just means that it has smaller pool to choose from! China has the biggest population in teh world, does that mean China has the best pilots in teh world!?
Can you see just how galatically stupid you are strating to look now!?
Flex
You posted earlier that I may have had a problem with Sharmaji being Hindu, read above and you will see it in your own posts! You mentioned his religion not me!
Now I ask you again, by saying that a nation lacks skilled manpower you are implying its whole force is “Horse Dung”!?
So your saying teh few skilled people it has must be crap!? Please enlighten me on how you made this connection!? I genuinely am intrigued!
Sharmaji
Qouting David Pryce Jones , a Neo con Pro Israel Hawk and using his comments on the state of the RSAF really is scrapping the bottom of the barrel, thats a bit like asking Arial Sharon about real property prices in downtown Beirut……
a) It does not say anything about Saudi pilots, eveyone knows that teh RSAF is more advanced then the army and navy!
B) Give me the link