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  • in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654012
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    Originally posted by Victor
    Actually, the Pentagon agrees with me… err… I agree with them. Why do you think that the US is going after Iraq and A’stan? So that AQ doesn’t have any place to re-establish themselves.

    I hate to bring this but it’s also recently in the news that the US is presuring Pakistan to act against AQ remnants. Why? So that AQ is on the run and doesn’t have a place to set up shop. Sure, AQ was not destroyed by the A’stan invasion but they are on the run which is exactly what one of the aims of the “War on Terror” is. To put terrorists on the defensive and take the initiate away from them.

    Here we go! It was only a matter of time…. 🙁

    Al Quada will always be a threat until OBL is captured, have you not figured that out yet!?

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654083
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    Originally posted by Victor
    (…) nuking Afghanistan would have been a waste of a perfectly good nuke on bad trash.

    Please tell me you did not really post that Victor!?

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654110
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    Originally posted by Victor
    Well, Israel doesn’t exactly have the resources to invade countries around the world now do they? Also, an equivalent strike on Israel of the nature of 9/11 would put the Israeli nation’s existance at stake. I don’t blame them for not letting something like that occur.

    Yes, they did… in Sudan and other countries and those countries were forced to kick out AQ but A’stan (Talibs) obliged AQ. Which goes to show that terror orgs are nothing without backing from state actors. The nukes are there not to deter the terror orgs but the state actors behind the terror orgs.

    So Victor, you are implying AQ cannot operate without state backing!? Seems like the entire Pentagon would disagree with you on that front mate………

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654125
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    Originally posted by Victor
    A’stan provided the materiel support that allowed AQ to operate and plan not only without hindrance but with the govt’s blessing. AQ was partially funded by the drug money from A’stan. Taliban and the AQ had a symbiotic relationship that the US went in to break up.

    SOC, so you expect a tiny country with nary its own resources to trust the that “international community” will prevent its destruction? It’s a very good thing that the Israelis don’t depend on the kindness of strangers for their survival.

    Victor
    Thats pure BS and you know it! Kicking AQ out of Afghanistan did not defeat AQ did it!? Obviously AQ could not have been that relaint on teh Taliban….

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    Viper
    I am anti-Israeli, I hate Israels policies at the momment, it does not mean I want Isreal wiped out! I would also say I hated teh atitude of aparthid south africa, that does not mean I wanted to see South Africa wiped out does it! I should warn you on equating the two………

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654146
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    Originally posted by Victor
    What happened to Iraq and Afghanistan should be detterent enough for any govt helping terrorists against the US.

    Let’s be realistic. The terror orgs around the world would not have the level of power they do if they didn’t have political and financial, and sometimes military backing from a state actor of some kind. Afghanistan was the state actor behind AQ and frankly, nuking Afghanistan would have been a waste of a perfectly good nuke on bad trash.

    Now, what prevents Kraplakistan from helping a terror org seeking to do a WMD strike against the US? Yep, the good ole Peacemaker.

    WTF!!!!!!!??????????

    Al Quada financed Afghanistan! Not the other way round!!!!!!!!

    Are you suggesting the Government of Afghanistan (The Taliban) created and funded Al Quada!? Wake up dude! It was OBL who did it!

    To prove my point, deposing the Afghan government did not stop Al Quada did it!? Your logic is seriosuly flawed here Victor!

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654155
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    Originally posted by Victor
    Yes, I do. As I have mentioned before, the terrorists are nothing but fronts for the Arab govts. Sure, nukes won’t prevent the bus bombings but if the Israelis didn’t have a strategic detterent what is to prevent an Arab govt from slipping a terror org a chem-bio WMD terror weapon? What prevents it is the certainty of Israeli nukes landing on top of Sheik Jabooti’s throne room.

    So, yes, I agree nukes don’t deter conventional terrorists but it does make them think twice about moving on to the next level of attacks.

    Maybe the “terrorists” would stop if their homeland was not occupied! Radical idea! But maybe Israels long term security lies in withdrawing from the occupied territories and a two state solution rather then in 200 nukes…….

    Both India and Pakistan having nukes has not made South Asia safer has it!?

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654195
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    So how comes Americas nukes did not stop Al Quada!?

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654211
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    Originally posted by Victor
    Why should the Israelis de-nuke? USSR is gone but the Arabs are still there. The Saudis, the Syrians, the terrorists (who are funded by the Arab oil money and are nothing but proxies for the Arab govt) are still there.

    Israeli nukes are not destabilizing to the region. They are not bartering their nukes for oil, or for missiles, or for cash. The Israeli nukes are for self-defense.

    Think about it, if the Syrians had 200 nukes would the middle East exist today? If the Iraqis had 200 nukes, would they have held off on using it?

    Victor
    For someone who has “Your next Kim Jong Il” as his tag , your posts are remarkably hypocritical! Israel Invaded Lebannon in 1982, and has recently bombeds territory in two neighboring countries!
    Israels nukes are a MAJOR reason why countries such as Syria, Libya and Iran are pursuing WMD…..

    It is very short sighted to think the Arabs will just sit on their hands and never aqquire Nukes if Israel will always retain the capacity to destroy Arab civilisation…….

    Better everyone disarms at teh same time…..INCLUDING ISRAEL!

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654216
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    Originally posted by SOC
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/040119-israel-nukes.htm

    Here’s my favorite line from that article: “The 1973 war had a lasting consequence: “Thus started the subtle, opaque use of the Israeli bomb to ensure that the United States kept its pledge to maintain Israel’s conventional weapons edge over its foes,” Farr writes.”

    We should have let them cook one off at Damascus, told the Soviets we wouldn’t intervene, and watched as they then got slagged by the Soviets. Much better than being played for fools :rolleyes:

    This does explain to a degree the cooperation between Israel and South Africa on Derby/R-Darter-it didn’t materialize out of nowhere, the relationship was already there.

    This was typical: “”Of the four countries which at that time had a nuclear capacity – the United States, the Soviet Union, Great Britain and France – only France was willing to help us,” Shimon Peres, then Israel’s defense minister, said in the 2001 documentary The Bomb in the Basement. “

    And this tells you to think twice before believing anything they say-they obviously only have their own interests in mind (which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but one others dealing with them should be aware of):”John F. Kennedy apparently was the last U.S. president to directly challenge Israel about its true intentions at Dimona.

    “Are you making an atom bomb?” he asked Peres.

    “Mr. President, I can promise you one thing,” Peres hedged, as he recalled in the 2001 documentary. “Israel will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons in the Middle East.””

    The fact that they may have over 200 weapons makes me wish we hadn’t forced Libya to disarm and give up WMDs. Only having one nation with WMD over there is not necessarily a good idea for the security of the others.

    True, we all know what happened the last time two countries went to war and one had nukes and the other did not….

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654234
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    Victor
    I think we can lay the myth of Arab military superiority over Israel to bed now……

    Israel can easily defeat its neighbours, it does not need nukes!

    If the day comes when Libya, Syria and Iran all give up pursuit of WMDs, Isreal, by default, will be seen as the biggest threat to peace in the region……

    in reply to: Middle Eastern Nukes #2654250
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    No criticism of Israel is allowed!? 🙁

    Although to be fair to Sauron, I dont see what this thread has to do with aviation SOC………

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    Originally posted by Wolverine
    LMAO. even if this is true it means jack. you have to fly the aircraft you fight with if you want to be good at it. there is little point in flying a chanmeap chinese built clone and then expecting your pilots to be ace at an F16. there is a reason why the world’s best AFs make their pilots fly the same aircraft and not a different one. every thing from handling properties to tactics to cockpit instrumentation is different. so flying 70hrs a year on an F16 means exactly that. 70 hrs a year. even if you log 200 hrs on some other type.

    🙂
    “there is a reason why the world’s best AFs make their pilots fly the same aircraft and not a different one”

    So so little knowledge….so much talk!

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    For the first time I agree with you Sabreace! No pilot sticks with one type, but in a desperate attempt to use a PAF pilots interview, Wolverine tried to claim the pilots total of 500 hours on the F-16 was his TOTAL FLYING time, despite the officer confirming he flew other types in our inventory!

    in reply to: LCA vs FC-1 #2654353
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    Haha!

    “Bradly”…..he must be a nice guy!

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