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August 16, 2005 at 2:28 pm in reply to: RAF Middle East in the 1920s and 1930s #1343712

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JDK,

A question for you? is the Junkers F13 at MAE as shoen on their website real, or an FSM, it doesnt appear to have corrugate skins??

regards

Mark P

August 16, 2005 at 2:24 pm in reply to: RAF Middle East in the 1920s and 1930s #1343716

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correction, Southern Sun crashed at Alor Star flown by Scotty Allen and was replaced by Southern Star flown by Kingsford Smith to pick up the mail from Southern Sun and complete the Aust to England and return flight on the air mail flight, I believe this picture is therefore Southen Star!! as stated in my first reply.

(This then was the longest Commercial flight then undertaken to that time in the world)

(too many australian/ANA Avro Tens lol!!)

regards

Mark P

August 16, 2005 at 1:14 pm in reply to: RAF Middle East in the 1920s and 1930s #1343749

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The dark painted engine cowl, wing tip (top) mounted navigation light, the fixed entrance ladder on the left hand side rear fuselage, silver wing, lack of horizontal fuselage/engine struts all rule out Southern Cross and Faith in Australia and point to this being VH-UNA Avro Ten Southern Sun on its All Australian airmail flight Aust-Uk or return UK-Aust in November 1931. (detailed photo shown on page 75 “Faith in Australia” Ellen Rogers – Child & Associates ISBN 086 777 380 7 published 1987.)

When my “other” pc comes back from the shop I will scan and post that and other pics to support such an opinion?

If it is the Southern Sun 5 rows of “white printed writing” may be existing under the row of windows seen on the right hand side but this angle and scan cannot distinguish if any such writing exists??

also a large “VH-” would exist under the RH wing with the “V” in the vicinity of the Aileron cable horn seen in the picture, again this scan doesnt seem to clarify its existance??
over to you Steve to see what the original picture might show to you?? under magnifying glass?? etc??

regards

Mark P

August 16, 2005 at 12:42 pm in reply to: RAF Middle East in the 1920s and 1930s #1343775

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JDK & Mr Bond,

Not wanting to be a presumptuous colonial? but I wonder if the 3 engined “Fokker” in the back of the Short Scylla G-ACJK of Imperial Airways might possibly be Australian.

It may be either the “Southern Cross” flown by Kingsford Smith in May 1931 on Experimental mail run Aust -to UK transferring the mail at Akyab to the Imperial Airwas “city of Karachi” (is that G-ACJK?).

It may be the “Southern Cross” flown by Kingsford Smith in 1929 on its “First Round the Globe” flight via India to England, Europe and later back to the USA, photographed in the company of the Imperial Airways aircraft?

It may be ANA’s Avro Ten (Licenced built Fokker) Southern Star flown by Kingsford Smith on the first all Australian mail run to UK and back (via India) in December 1931, perhaps photographed in the company of the Imperial Airways aircraft?

It may be the former ANA Avro Ten Southern Moon, rebuilt as “Faith in Australia” and flown by Charles Ulm in the June 1933 to England via Rangoon and Calcutta , or on its return flight in October 1933 as a further mail prooving flight.

The Silver wing and dark (blue??) Fuselage would tend to rule out the “Faith in Australia”, the lack of horizontal cross supports between the fuselage and engine narcelle would appear to rule out the Southern Cross, so my estimate is that this is most likely to be the Avro Ten Southern Star travelling through the far/middle east?? on its December 1931 Australia- UK- Australia flight??

regards

Mark Pilkington

August 15, 2005 at 12:27 pm in reply to: OZ/ N. Zealand book shop Question.. #1344369

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JDK,

I thought you were saying that they were good too, :rolleyes:

my comment of defering to you was simply meant that I would leave the International comparisons to your expertise and experiences, and to simply say they are my favourite place to be a “kid” in a “lolly” shop!, :p

the choice of books in that shop is truelly staggering!, whats more if they dont have it they will help you track it down, even from another shop!! 😉

regards

Mark P 😀

August 15, 2005 at 12:13 pm in reply to: OZ/ N. Zealand book shop Question.. #1344376

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I will defer to JDK’s opinion on international comparisons, but Hylands Book store in Little Flinders St Melbourne is “my” favourite retail therapy outlet!

I find I pick up one laybuy just in time to lodge a new one.

regards

Mark P

August 14, 2005 at 12:12 pm in reply to: Wangaratta update – New toys and progress fantastic !!! #1345136

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Setter,

when does the ex Cosford B-24 arrive at Murray’s?

regards

Mark P

August 12, 2005 at 1:28 pm in reply to: Ron Flockart's P-51D G-ARKD #1346634

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There are pictures of this aircraft both in Australia and Athens in Peter Andersons book Mustangs of the RAAF & RNZAF

regards

Mark P

August 11, 2005 at 2:08 pm in reply to: Whats this Rank thing all about then #1348205

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hmmmm? I thought it was a ranking of how often, or how many people you upset with your opinions or posts?

regards

Mark P

August 9, 2005 at 2:27 pm in reply to: For those of us Downunda #1350974

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Hi Guys

Heard today of still more good toys on their way down unda !!!!

Surprises to come – more when I am able to talk about it – One of them is very exciting !!!

Regards
John P

Setter – and the RAF Cosford Liberator – What did I tell you!!!
remember you heard it here first!!!

regards

Mark P

August 6, 2005 at 10:24 pm in reply to: For those of us Downunda #1356016

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Setters “hand” at work???????

Stormbird

So O to 3 Corsair’s in Oz, counting the one at Darwin, and all to be based, right here in Victoria Australia!!! .

Early model

Mid model

Late model

THAT’S VERY COOL I MUST SAY!!!

More from C.W. A-26 inbound and more TBM’S (plural), and some other very cool stuff .

It is cool, but I suspect there is more to all of this???

Is there any truth to the rumour that Setter was previously seen in the vicinity of all three Corsairs with “sub-assembly” drawings?? :confused:

Is it merely a coincidence that 1 of each type is arriving?? :rolleyes:

People have scoffed at the idea of Australia as the “Aviation Ark” with Setter travelling to the UK to spirit away other countries rare aircraft like Beaufighters etc, but I think you have found direct evidence of Setter at work to achieve his grand plan. :rolleyes:

Setter was last seen ogling the B24 at Cosford during his recent trip to the UK, and now there are rumours of it moving (and they think its going to Hendon 😉

I understand Setter works for the “Government” and has a “double 0” rating, I also understand he is under constant surveilance by M1 and the FBI when entering the UK and the US, and always frisked at the airport on the way out of those countries.

regards

Mark P

August 4, 2005 at 7:15 am in reply to: Interesting 3-D Drawing for Setter #1360219

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Stormbird??

I havent heard that rumour???

regards

Mark Pilkington

(actually I think there might be some truth to that situation, but I think its still a (poorly kept) secret, as the people involved are still finalising arrangements?)

August 2, 2005 at 9:16 am in reply to: Interesting 3-D Drawing for Setter #1363784

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John P,

I thought that was plane-fully oblivious!!

Ahoy there, Papa-Lima, someone’s come round and done horrid things to yer Lancaster… shoved an entire Type XXIII submarine up the snout, they did, and a bay window to boot! I’m sure it’s nice enough for a breakfast nook, though…

The Avro Lincoln. A fine study of a graceful aircraft (the Lancaster) beaten senseless with the ugly stick

We need the sub- assembly drawing to “assemble the sub” onto the front of the large scale Lincoln model we are going to get in the kit!!!!!!!!! 😀

regards

Mark P

August 2, 2005 at 9:10 am in reply to: can anyone Id these parts? #1363800

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I am with JDK on this one, if we tell you we will have to kill you

THe Item on the right looks very much like an Armament Hoist made by AVRO Cananda in the mid 1950’s?? :p

The item on the left appears to be a 24V DC powersupply (this is the panel control and plug connectors – probably for connection to radio equipment, turret power systems (or perhaps even for Armament Hoists?? ) 😉

The Item in the middle appears to be a servo motor, perhaps 24V for turrets?? (or perhaps even for Armament Hoists??)) :diablo:

Maybe all spares made for remaining operational Lancasters in the RCAF in the mid 1950s???

Now that we have “told” you, you will probably “kill” us :dev2:

regards

Mark Pilkington

August 1, 2005 at 1:34 pm in reply to: Interesting 3-D Drawing for Setter #1365291

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Vilderbeast/Paul,

thanks for that link I think I will have to get one of those 1/48 scale kits!

Webpilot

sub-assemblies diagram?? I guess it could be 😉

regards

Mark P
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