The Vigilante was good for high altitude reconnaissance, but at low altitude the low wing loading caused too much shaking and blurred the photos. The RF-4 and RF-101 took better photos at low altitude. As a bomber, the linear bomb bay always had a fuel tank in it because of problems the Navy had dropping bombs out of it. The Vigilante could drop nukes from its wing pylons. I think that SAMs made high altitude weapons delivery too dangerous, and so the A-6 Intruder, with its terrain following radar, took over the mission of long range nuclear weapons delivery. The Air Force didn’t need the Vigilante because the B-58A, and then the FB-111A, did the same mission better.
Here is an idea. I never tried it, but I think it might work. Get the best, biggest photos you can of what you want. Scan them into your computer. Order some blank decal sheets. I’m pretty sure they are available. Adjust the size of the image to what you need. This will require some measuring and experimentation. Then print the images onto the blank decal sheets. I have no idea if this would produce good results. A quality printer would help. It should work in theory. I have read of it being done using photocopiers.
There must be some websites for modelers out there.
There is a company called Microscale that makes after market decal sheets. I’ve never looked for a website, but I’ll try it and see.
Kovy said something about the French Crusaders in the Navy Forum (topic “Rafale on Foch”):
ThereΒ΄s a picture of the boneyard:
http://jetart.free.fr/image-avion/cruze-landi.jpg
these are all the french F-8 left, the rest is in museums
Caption of the picture: these are all the french F-8 left, the rest is in museums
I’m clinging to my fantasy. π If you want a real carrier force, buy the USS America for $1 and put our old F-14s and A-7Es on it. Unfortunatly, all the A-6Es are gone now.
Isn’t there a Forrestal class carrier we could sink instead? You would think that the UK would be glad to take the ship off of our hands. We have a boneyard full of F-14s and A-7s to put on it. Its such a waste. One might think that someday the US could use a perfectly good aircraft carrier. π
The Rafale is better to be sure, but if the French F-8s have not been cut into scrap, then they would cost next to nothing to put back onto the same deck that they flew from for decades. I believe that they had many upgrades, and are much better aircraft than the old USN Crusaders.
Harriers would be excellent, and the RN found that they would fly in conditions that would ground CTOL aircraft.
What happened to the French F-8s? It would be so awesome to see A-4s and F-8s operate together again on the deck of a carrier. Talk about deja vous.
dont think the usaf mixed roles like that did they??
adc phantoms AA only, withmud moves only having AG role
USAF F-4s loaded with bombs usually had at least a couple of Sparrows. Its often a good idea to have some AAMs for self defence. Sidewinders don’t weigh as much as Sparrows.
Rocky, how about all the dictatorships that the CIA supported and created in Central and Latin America? How about the CIA trained death squads of Nicaragua and other Latin American countries?
And the Shah of Iran. That didn’t turn out too well either. We were trying to stop communisim, which would have been no better and certainly in some ways worse. As has been written here, things aren’t all black and white, and they don’t always work the way that we hoped, and I’m not even going to say it was a good idea.
The US has been one of the most aggresive countries in the world the last 2 centuries, striving for control of primary resources.
In 1991 we had the most powerful force on Earth standing on most of the World’s oil, and we left. We buy what resources we don’t have on the open market, and a lot of other countries have gotten rich off of the US and the rest of the western world.
So cool it about freedom and such…
Not while I am still breathing.
Oh, one more thing that I forgot. As I said, Iraq lived in fear under the Saddam regime BUT also, Iraq had the best educational system of all the countries in the area (when they were almost totaly illiterate before Saddam) and one of the best Medical systems in the world (I am not kidding. Search it up). What do the Iraqis have now? Terrorist killing them by the dozens, Americans killing them as collateral damage by the dozens again, a destroyed infrastructure and living conditions of the 17th century. Can you trully come and say that they are in better conditions than when they lived under Saddam (That is before 1988, then the embargo destroyed the country and was responsible for millions of deaths of children and civilians due to lack of proper health conditions).
Before 1988 Saddam killed MILLIONS in his war to grab Iran’s oil. Then he invaded Kuwait. He slaughtered countless tens of thousands of his own people so he could hold on to power. He wiped out towns full of Iraqi men, women and children with poison gas. I saw the Iraqis cheering and dancing in the streets and tearing down statues when US troops arrived. Yes, Iraq is better without Saddam. We should have done this in 1991.
The embargo did not cause those children to die. The UN allowed him to buy food and medicine, but Saddam spent the money on more palaces and arms.
The infrastructure, as poor as it is, is now in better shape than it was before the invasion. Iraqi Bathists were institutionally killing Iraqis before the war. Now the only difference is you can see them doing it on TV with bombs. π‘
Yes, some of those are really undeniable, but it is only a cherry-picking of what turned out well, for instance how can you mention removing Saddam without mentioning kickin him up to grab power first? The same goes for Afghanistan and loing-term CIA support of mudjahedeens.
I could list several nasty dictators that we dirtied our hands by putting into power, but Saddam was not one of them.
Vietnam did not turn out well. π
We supported the Mudjahedeens to get the Soviets out. There was more than one faction in Afghanistan, and it was Pakistan who supported the Taliban after we left.
Given the typical high level of ignorance I find it hard to believe that a nation, as selfish and self-praising as Americans would really care about what kind of tyranny is happening anywhere else, as long as it does not serve their own purposes and interests.
Its true, we don’t stride across the world sweeping aside every dictator. It costs a lot of blood and money to do that, and usually we don’t if our interests are not involved. But we certainly spent a lot of blood and money in East Asia without any immediate benifit to us besides the global struggle against communist world domination. We spent trillions keeping Europe free, because we sat by and let Europe twice be devastated by war before we reacted, and we were not going to watch and let it happen again.
I mean, if a today’s student learns English to have some advantage when working as a foreign sales manager in the future, can we talk about forcibly speaking English?
Perhaps this is a source of some of the resentment I am reading? π
I am asking you, what has YOUR America done to promote freedom and democracy? Name me ONE thing…
I was born in 1962. MY America kept the Soviets out of western Europe, kept the communists out of South Korea my whole life, spent our gold and blood in the jungles of South East Asia trying to keep those people free, freed the people of Grenada, and now there are elections in El Salvador and Nicaragua because of our help. Iraq and Afganistan have just been liberated from some of the worst tyrants on the planet, and are now having elections for the first time. Sorry, I didn’t limit myself to ONE thing.
That said, I dont begrudge the US helping itself to the war booty(read: reconstruction projects paid for in oil)
A few companies may be making money, but the war is costing the US a fortune. Not that we anticipated this.
yeah, the much trumpeted “coalition of the willing”:
Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.
Afganistan?? El Salvador?? Eriteria?? Ethiopia??
LOL..!!!
Strikingly similar to WWII, with the US carrying most of the load. :p
the point is, the world would be a safer place without U.S.
Safer for tyrants.