C-124 Globemaster
I rather liked the C-124 Globemaster. Here 0-10074 of the 349th MAW taxies out at Rhein/Main Frankfurt on a snowy 11 January 1969. I wonder what the observer was looking out for – wingtip clearance?:
battle damaged/ Atcham Tower….Globies in ‘less common’ ?…..well I guess they’re less common now!! :), and I didn’t know about the observer on the top custom…..were there any less common variants or were they all ‘bog-standard’?
Was F-BJER the Viking that lingered at Le Bourget on the grass?…a ‘less common’ type at the 1970s Paris Shows, perhaps!
B 307 AirNautic Turnhouse
Bl**dy hell, that was quick! Nice….Rugby charter, maybe?
Worth looking on abpic at F-BELV (which I missed when it came to Heathrow!!!)
http://www.abpic.co.uk/results.php?q=F-BELV&fields=reg&sort=latest&limit=10
Lockheed Constitution and Douglas Skyrocket
More from photographer JR Eyerman in the LIFE/Google archive….story called Douglas Jet http://images.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&q=Douglas+Jet+source%3Alife&btnG=Search+Images dated 1949
Boeing C-75 Stratoliner 42-88623
Another colour classic from the LIFE/Google archive by J R Eyerman….this was a TWA plane absorbed into the Air Transport Command with TWA crews I believe…. C-75s flew the Atlantic to Prestwick and TWA had evaluated Croydon as a possible London Terminus for the B307/C-75. The fancy ‘Art Deco’ or ‘Streamline Moderne’ aluminium steps look like requisitioned TWA kit with the logo washed off….theres a pic in the LIFE archive of one by a TWA DC-3
this photo from ‘Air transport command’ by J R Eyerman for LIFE http://images.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&q=Air+transport+command+source%3Alife&btnG=Search+Images
And thanks, chaps, for the posts #54-#60
Less Common Empire Flying Boats
The attached colour photo from a set of shots of ‘CLARE’ G-AFCZ at La Guardia NY 1940 have just surfaced on the new Google hosted LIFE magazine online photo archive. Clare was fitted with long range tanks for the Atlantic and flew several trips to New York from Poole via Foynes,and Botwood around the time of the Battle of Britain. I have colour corrected this to remove a blue cast on the original
link to image in LIFE archive http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?q=la+guardia+airport+source:life&imgurl=7bbcc05ff5db8b78 or search in Google Images ‘searchword source:life’ for any topic in LIFE mag
G-AFIF DC-1
Forbes bought the DC-1 from Howard Hughes when Hughes decided to use a Lockheed 14 instead for his round the World flight of 1938…Forbes took a party of journalists to Munich and Salzburg during the 1938 international talks….G-AFIF spent most of its time in mainland Europe after getting a British Cof A before being sold on to Spain
Jenny Lewis/Elvis Costello….Carpetbaggers live on Letterman
http://www.prefixmag.com/media/jenny-lewis/carpetbaggers-ft-elvis-costello-live-on-lettermam-/22810/ best juke box track for years
Jenny Lewis/Elvis Costello….Carpetbaggers live on Letterman
http://www.prefixmag.com/media/jenny-lewis/carpetbaggers-ft-elvis-costello-live-on-lettermam-/22810/ best juke box track for years
Avro 642/4m
This was a one off 4 engine version of the 642, a derivative of the Avro license built Fokker. Supplied for the Viceroy of India at the end of 1934 and apparently replaced with 2 Airspeed Envoys in September 1938, finally disposed of about 1940?
see link http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1320024#post1320024 post#167
From left 2 files kind permission keithnewsome , on right Flight photo 11097S
Avro 642/4m
In Air Chief Marshal Joubert’s ‘The Fated Sky’ he says (Ch9 p134)….’The Govt of India had purchased for the previous Viceroy, Lord Willingdon, a four engined Avro aircraft, which Lord Linlithgow his successor,had found unsuitable.It had been handed over to the RAF, and I had the misfortune when flying it down to Singapore in January 1938 for the annual co-operation between Indian and Malayan commands to damage it so severely as to make it completely unserviceable. To replace it I arranged to purchase two Airspeed Envoys……. (not sure how this relates to the other version of the Avro’s demise….longshot)…..Joubert then details the string pulling necessary to get approval for the purchase and then the actual Envoy ferry flight (ca. September 1938) which he led. I always assumed the Croydon Avro photo was taken just before delivery but was it??
Attached the 642/4m at Croydon (Flight 11097S) and scans of Envoys N9107(ex G-AFJD) and N9108( ex G-AFJE) in India(from Aeroplane Mthly May84)
It’s an amazing depth of knowledge that you kind people have, thank you !
A couple for tonight, also at Shaibah, the Viceroy of India’s aircraft, Lord Willingdon, note the same fueling rig again ! this is February 1935.Keith.
PHOTO 47.
PHOTO 48.
These are excellent ‘new’ photos of a one-off type. In the autobiography of AVM Philip Joubert he claims to have been responsible for the demise of the Avro 542 4m, so maybe it was Joubert who hit the lorry.
I have made a Flickr album from the Matson Archives in the US library of Congress dealing with aviation in Palestine from 1913 to 1945
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74784995@N00/sets/72157604727564944/
you can access the original archive online at the L of C via the serial nos. and by getting a yahoogroups or flickr password you can add comments and tags on Flickr…..do the photos on the Key forum stay up indefinitely or are they removed at some point? Rgds, Mick
Fairchild C-82 Jet Packet, XC-120 Pack-Plane and YC-119H SkyVan
Less Common variants of the C-82/C-119 Packet family
The C-82 Jet Packet was used into the early 70s by TWA who found they could transport a 747s JT-9D engine in the C-82 by removing a few components http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1025306
The C-120 PackPlane inspired several Toy makers but not the USAF…There is a YouTube
The elegantC-119H Skyvan had new wings and tail and unusually all its fuel was carried in two huge underwing external tanks….. but the Lockheed C-130 was chosen as the USAF next tactical transport
…last thumbnail shows a Steward Davis converted C-82 Jet Packet 1600
DC-1 G-AFIF
Thanks Newforest….although the ajj collection has a listing for G-AFIF I think the photo is of the DC-1 marked X 223Y as in vol II of the British Civil Aircraft Putnam book.In Spring 2007 the Croydon Airport Society published extracts from Capt. Walter Rogers logbook relating to the DC-1…he flew it from Dagenham to Croydon on 3July (1938)…on 5July it flew Croydon-Bristol-Croydon….11JulCroydon-Paris…12July Paris-Croydon….12Jul Croydon-Heathrow-Croydon….27July air tests for Certificate of Airworthiness(issued 29July)….20August Paris-Deauville….21Aug Deauville-Cannes….25Aug Cannes-Marseilles-Venice….31Aug Venice-Milan….01September Milan-Venice….04Sep Venice-Marseilles….15Sep Paris-Munich-Salzburg….16Sep Salzburg-Munich-Paris….flying at Paris 17,18,29Sep….01October Paris Amsterdam….02Oct Amsterdam-Paris. Other sources suggest it may have visited Baldonnel, Dublin.’Heathrow’ then was of course the pre-war Fairey Company’s Great West Aerodrome. I believe the Munich flights carried journalists to the 1938 International Peace Conference.
Flight 10 june 1960 had a letter from Dennis M Powell about the DC-1 with 2 photos of the re-assembly at Dagenham but not marked G-AFIF
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1960/1960%20-%200806.html
I guess the Budd Conestoga would qualify too. Some interesting comments here: http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/budd/rb-1.htm.
Recall seeing it at Pima Air Museum in 1979. In those fairly early days of the museum you had to sign a chit indemnifying them from any damages due to snakebites etc. The Budd was sitting in quite long grass and scrub so their fears were quite well-founded! I came away unscathed…
brgds
Alan
The Conestoga is definitely ‘less common’… Bill Larkins shot of a civilianised one in post#30 page 1 this thread
btw Are there any press photo archives in Germany which might have airport photos relating to the Munich talks of 1938….Lord Forbes took a party of journalists there in G-AFIF his DC-1 (searching for a photo)….Thanks
Douglas DC-1 G-AFIF
This was the only DC to arrive on the British register before WWII…the AAHS aerial shot shows it as NC223Y still fitted with the ‘airflow straightening’ sections between the engines and the fuselage….the JAMD (Getty images) shot shows it being received by The Earl of Granard (Lord/Viscount Forbes) at Dagenham Docks…….has anybody seen photos of it marked as G-AFIF
http://www.aahs-online.org/BackIssues/v50n4/Imagev50n4_3.htm
http://www.jamd.com/image/in-search/douglas+airliner/@0g3352218