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November 11, 2008 at 11:03 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1225561

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KZ IV and Barkley Grow

One KZ IV is still flying , nose/cockpit a bit Percival Q6 looking? http://www.abpic.co.uk/results.php?q=KZ+IV&fields=type&sort=latest&limit=50

The Barkley Grow was used on floats ( and skis, too)
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Transports/BarkleyGrow.htm

November 11, 2008 at 12:53 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1226683

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Fokker F XX Zilvermeeuw and Pander Postjager Mailplanes

Stylish Trimotors built in the early Thirties to satisfy a Dutch requirement for a fast mailplane to serve the East Indies…..the Postjager was wrecked at Allahabad in the Mildenhall to Australia McRobertson Race of 1934
from left… VR Curassow site…the late John Stroud’s Wings of Peace Mar 85 Aeroplane Monthly… prob.Flight…Flight Archive

November 10, 2008 at 11:37 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1226777

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Both of the completed KZ-IV still survive in Denmark; one is airworthy and based at Stauning and the other is on static display in Helsingör. And the model was made by Tekno (which no longer exists) and you pay through your nose for a good one these days!

Apologies to Thatcham Tower for thread drift, but here are a tinplate and a die-cast Danish Hospital plane….is the tin one based on a real type?

November 10, 2008 at 10:40 pm in reply to: mystery aircraft #1226871

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Definitely.

http://www.machdiamonds.com/s200.html

Now if you’d used the picture of the American one in RAF markings that would really have thrown everyone!

Never heard of the neat little SIPA 300 on ‘machdiamonds’ before…but landing speed 56mph, stalling speed 65mph?? 🙂

November 10, 2008 at 6:19 pm in reply to: mystery aircraft #1227126

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SIPA Minijet

Theres one here, a photo I was given as a schoolboy… http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1019991/

November 10, 2008 at 12:50 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1227822

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KZ Ambulance Plane

How about the KZ IV seen at Hanover Airshow 2 May 1962? Only two examples of this ambulance aircraft were built, the first in 1944 and this one in 1949.

A pretty plane…wonder if one visited the UK….isn’t there one preserved in Scandinavia?Also think there was a nice tinplate toy model available in the 50’s

November 10, 2008 at 12:17 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1227831

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Given that the picture was 1941 and that
Yu-SAN, SAO & SAP were all out of use by 1938…my guess is that they were “recycled”.

Aeroplane Monthly October 1985, a bumper 150th issue with lots of classic civil airliners, had the late John Stroud’s Wing’s of Peace article on the Spartan Cruiser….he said that YU-SAP was the sole license built Cruiser by Aeroput …the crashed ‘CYK looked repairable …sample illustrations below

and a bonus link http://www.jamd.com/search/?q=Spartan+Cruiser

November 9, 2008 at 9:18 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1228115

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RPS, #25: Ashton: 748. No. Last hurrah of the Manchester wing, distantly, was AWA Argosy. Freddie Laker for ATL.98 Accountant (pic anyone?) put some structure fabrication into (HSAL)Gloster: he was known to believe it more than a co-incidence that (HSAL)Avro then did 748. There’s a thread on this.

Accountant looking almost pretty….a cover shot for Air Pictorial back then

Interesting post alertken re Accountant/HS748 connections? http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=74254&highlight=accountant+Avro+748 post#18…..engine nacelles look like a straight rip-off but the 748 fuselage is an improvement on the odd -shape Accountant one

November 9, 2008 at 5:42 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1228320

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A very uncommon one here -YU-SAN Spartan Cruiser c/n5 , of Aeroput – seen on he dump at Belgrade – Zemun in 1941.(Pictures originally from the Airwarfare site, to me via Mick West)

You go first on the rest of the Spartan Cruiser story , then, Dave….one of my favourite types, Mick :)….don’t forget the one off the Scottish hillside now at the Museum of Flight

I suspect the YU- one went into the smelter, avion ancien

November 9, 2008 at 1:16 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1228724

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Lockheed P2V-3Z Armored Transport

There were only 2 built 122986 and 122987….122986 was extensively used in Korea…featured in the amazingly comprehensive P-2 pages of Baldur Sveinsson , thumbnail samples below, ‘airstairs’ and pax windows visible on 122986
http://www.verslo.is/baldur/p2/various.htm

{The P2V ‘Truculent Turtle’ has also to be classed as a Transport…it carried a young kangaroo on its famous 11,000 mile plus Australia to Ohio, USA flight!…. 🙂
Takeoff from Perth Australia 1946, (in 4720 of an available 6000 feet not as a stunned Flight reported 4720 yards! )
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1946/1946%20-%202042.html?search=neptune%20turtle
Turtle visit 1949 to Lisbon ,Plymouth ,Northolt and Paris AirShow , commemorating the 30th anniversary of the Navy NC-4 Atlantic crossing
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1949/1949%20-%200905.html?search=neptune%20turtle%20northolt }

P2V-3Z pics below from Baldur Sveinsson P2V tribute site….The Turtle/Northolt/1949 pic on right is a Flight photo from British Military Airfields (Then and Now) by Leo Marriott

November 9, 2008 at 12:17 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1228737

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YC-122…. Beech Quad…. Budd Conestoga

Thanks all…excellent choices for the thread!

Bill Larkins Conestoga shot is on http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Larkins/3768L.jpg

November 8, 2008 at 6:01 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1229196

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Carrier Onboard Delivery the U.S. way

The Grumman Trader was a conversion from a stock of surplus Grumman Trackers
http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1015475/

and the powerful Grumman Greyhound used elements of the Hawkeye but has a pallet capable fuselage and loading door (I saw the one which visited London Heathrow about 1977….very rare visit, never seen pics of it!)
http://www.irishairpics.com/database/photo/1011897/

November 8, 2008 at 2:31 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1229485

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Transport with Twin engines,Common Shaft and Contra-rotating props

The Gannet COD4 was the Royal Navy’s on board delivery system when it had big carriers

http://www.abpic.co.uk/results.php?q=m%20west%20gannet&fields=all&sort=most_popular

November 8, 2008 at 12:23 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1229831

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JF Airlines and Avro Ashton

Thanks avion ancien and garryrussell…its occurred to me to read up on JF in the British Independent Airlines book

keithnewsome…I think the Ashton was derived from the Tudor and I think they did quite a stylish job….in the Robert D Archer photopage on link theres a very good Farnborough shot of the Ashton and some nice colour from Heathrow ca.1953 e.g a pre-war? Swissair DC-3 HB-IRA and a TAE (Greece) DC-4 (in the DC-4 album) shot from the 1953-only enclosure reached by walking (escorted) across the live taxiway near the Northside control tower
http://www.pbase.com/marauder61/aviation_photography_by__robert_d_archer

and while the standard DC-3 is a bit off-topic I just noticed that some of Swissairs pre-war Fokker supplied DC-3s had starboard (RH) pax doors like HB-IRA and some had port (LH) doors, see link… http://www.sr692.com/fleet/12_dc3/index.html

November 6, 2008 at 11:57 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1230844

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JF Airlines and Jersey Ferry Airlines

There’s a very interesting history to JF Airlines that deserves to be told (or maybe someone has already done so). In the meantime I wonder if a certain forumite wants to post images of their Herons or Islanders not only at Portsmouth but also at Shoreham.

I shot this one at Heathrow 13 months after the Twin Pioneer at Portsmouth …what was the connection between JF and Jersey Ferry, avion ancien?
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Jersey-Ferry-Airlines/De-Havilland-DH-114/0801397/L/
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