C-119 ‘Photoship’ at Farnborough 1953
Scanned from Charles E Brown’s ‘Camera above the Clouds’ Vol I
The RAF’s lack of drive on freighters
Puzzling that they didn’t take to the Bristol Freighter….heavy para-drops would have still been a problem with nose-loading though…..wasn’t the C-130 order to replace a cancelled Hawker Siddeley STOL jet drive-on combat transport the AW681 see link
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/AW_681b.jpg
The RAF seemed to get on with the Hastings whereas BOAC couldn’t get rid of their Hermes airliner equivalents fast enough, even if they had a nosewheel!
Fairchild Packet Farnborough mid Fifties
The Scramble Airshow Archive has 51-2611 a P&W R-4360 engined C-119C listed at Farnborough 1956/1957….scans from Charles E Brown’s book show one being used as a photoship in 1953 , see post #30 on link
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=84084&highlight=c82+c119
I would like to see more info/pics on the C-82 used by the UK
Aeronut 2008…..Wise to stick to C82 and C119!….I’d like to see a photo of a jeep coming out of the side of a Hastings…..I worked on the fringes of the civil air-cargo industry in the Seventies so I find the gradual steps to the modern palletised/containerised systems interesting
Simon Beck…..its puzzling that Fairchild stuck with both names for so long…..did they ever use Warthog in their publicity for the A-10?
G-ADWT/CF-NXT
This WAS in the Oshkosh Museum, but has been brought back to the UK and restored around year 2000 as G-ADWT, see link
http://www.aviastar.org/air/england/miles_m-2.php
G-ADWT is believed to have landed at dusk at Heston around 1956 i.e. 7 or 8 years after the airfield closed and flown out next day after a night in the hangar…..a strong candidate for the last fixed wing visitor at Heston
Sud SE2010 Armagnac
This large transport, rejected by Air France was operated in the 1950s by a partly government funded company ‘SAGETA’ on Vietnam troop flights, back-up flights for Air France and as shown in John Hopton’s photos carried the French team to the 1956 Olympics. John an Australian aviation historian( and no mean photographer!) sent me some discs and files a few years ago….the massive Armagnac made a big impression….the JAL DC-6B (DC-6A?) was we think the first Japanese civil aircraft to visit Australia after WWII (brought their team,too)
Just for the record, the Lufthansa “Connie” is actually an L-1649A Starliner (N7316C).
I can recall seeing the odd Lufthansa Starliner at LHR in 1961/62 (I was young then!) but did they ever operate any other type of Connie?
Yes. They resumed long-range post-war services about 1956 with L-1049G Super Constellations with tip-tanks (short range they had Daks, then CV-440s then Viscounts)
My memory of the Starliner at LHR in the 50s is that it leapt off the runway whereas the earlier models seemed to climb slowly
T-21….is it the same photo in the images of England book as in the Flight link?
avion ancien…..the Flight article mentions a glider the Technical College students were building ….in an article in 1947 about a Woodley air display Flight says the ‘Venture’ is ‘coming along nicely’, no pic , though….it might be worth enquiring at the Flight photo library if they have any other pics of the ‘Venture’….does the biography of Blossom Miles have anything on their house near Woodley ‘Lands End’ and the aircraft workers village they planned to build around 1947?
Breda Zappata BZ 308
Post war italian rarity….4 Centaurus engines with 5-bladed wooden props…. I think one may have visited Northolt?
P2V and AJ carrier deployment
Kenneth Wooster’s pages on the Hatwing program are excellent…I think he flew both types….
Boeing’s DC-5
This photo shows the original tailplane without dihedral
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/hist078b.htm
The pre-war British Airways Ltd ordered 9 which were cancelled after a few weeks with the outbreak of World War II
Less Common Post-1939 Transport Aircraft
I’ve launched the above thread as as spin-off from this interesting quiz…. it was the French types in the Flight report from the 1949 Paris show that caught my attention
Auster and Beagle nosewheel types
Dont forget the various attempts at Auster then Beagle to ‘go nosewheel’ the Auster Atlantic?…the Beagle Airedale…doubt if any have been reversed…..it was necessary to be ‘modern’ then, now ‘retro’ is a factor….
Mystery fuselage FW 200 Condor not Languedoc
I think its definitely the same photo as in Flight Dec 13 1937….I did earlier wonder if it was a Leduc launch vehicle Languedoc because of the plate on the inner roof of the photo in post#1 but as I said the support posts would have gone right through the fuselage (was there only one Languedoc converted?…theres a section and superb model in the Le Bourget museum)
The Condor and Languedoc were only about as wide as the DC-3 I would say
If you’re into old prop interiors there’s a pic of the Ju 90(a fatter aircraft) in Flight Sep13 1937
and on this link a photo(click for large) of the Lufthansa Condor which flew Berlin-NY nonstop 70 years ago
http://www.flightglobal.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=berlin+new+york&IncludeBlogs=104