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  • in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #834307
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    In the 2015 thread about the Aeroplane BOAC special there was a crop of David Legg’s photo of the nose of wrecked BOAC Catalina G-AGDA at Poole (March 1943) with the Globe logo (perhaps a low-vis silhouette version?)…thread possibly ruined by the Photoshop problem so image[ATTACH=CONFIG]258993[/ATTACH] attached
    (No bearing on the globe colour, though)

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #834710
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    I was surprised I hadn’t heard of Henry C Taylor’s European trip because I had read plenty about the unrelated Myron C Taylor’s extraordinary 1942 trip to see the Pope in the Vatican ( via Lisbon 🙂 )
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    Attached the Henry C Taylor Life article (6 text pages) from https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Bk4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA74&dq=Henry+c+taylor&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1yprg9afZAhWCZ1AKHZUYCbgQ6AEIKTAB#v=onepage&q=Henry%20c%20taylor&f=false

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #834890
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    Interesting find , that Henry C Taylor book….here’s the map from the related LIFE article[ATTACH=CONFIG]258934[/ATTACH]

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #835008
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    Well if you compare the photos of Clifton G-AFPZ and the Lodestar G-AGIL in post #317 above .G-AFPZ shows the top (red ) nationality band under the registration darker ( due I would say to use of orthochromatic film). The top band on G-AGIL is very light suggesting it was photographed with panchromatic film and possibly an orange filter on the lens which was commonplace in black and white view photography.Yet on both aircraft the BOAC logo globe colour matches the lower nationality band so must be blue.
    Of course if the colour bands were applied inverted on either aircraft the theory goes out the window, but you’ve got to assume something. Clifton also appears to have dark panels on the wing top..now THEY are believed to be orange, and similar to those on Pan American flying boats around 1940 .
    (Orthochromatic film was insensitive to red , orange and yellow rendering those colours more transparent on the developed negative hence darker on the resultant print….(it could be developed by sight under a red darkroom safelight which some photographers liked)….panchromatic film rendered the red and blue ends of the spectrum more equally and some types like Kodak Verichrome Pan had built in orange filters which produced prints with blue skies rendered darker and red and orange rendered lighter (panchromatic film like colour film had to be developed in total darkness)…Edited

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #835047
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    Adrian…What’s the source for the globe as painted on the BOAC aircraft being orange?

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #835203
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    There was a discussion on Seawings forum about the 1940 first BOAC logo and a contributor made a ‘profile’ drawing with a blue globe.http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/Philthy88/C-Class-Epire-Flying-Boat-G_AFPZ-Clifton-110114-CS6_zps7c9662ae.jpg Might be shot down by the dreaded photobucket curse.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #835601
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    Ian, Adrian…What actual evidence is there that the globe on the BOAC logo as applied to aircraft was orange?..From the orthochromatic photo of G-AFPZ Clifton I would say the globe is blue matching the lower stripe of the red white blue bands…if the globe was orange it would look more like the top band (red & orange look dark grey or black with ortho film) . I am not a fan of aircraft ‘profiles’ and not much of aviation’art’

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #836193
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    That first cover to Lisbon is a nice example of the first official British Overseas Airways Corporation logo which only appeared on a few aircraft and leaflets before being abandoned for a plain Speedbird
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3a/09/e5/3a09e508e459fb7d5ed91658907d2306.jpg
    and p143 in https://www.aerosociety.com/media/4844/british-overseas-airways-corporation-1940-1950-and-its-legacy.pdf
    http://www.aussieairliners.org/shortfb/vh-acd/2545.256l.jpg
    https://media.iwm.org.uk/ciim5/55/494/large_000000.jpg

    in reply to: Civilian trans-Atlantic flight during WWII #836822
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    If you can specify the date in late July or early August 1942 that Straight met his wife off the plane there is probably enough data around to confirm the aircraft and airline and route

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #768933
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    Weird that John Cowles got it completely reversed…the Whitchurch to Lisbon service was officially run by the British national airline but was actually a 100% KLM operation , only the exterior of the aircraft had British camouflage and markings

    in reply to: Civilian trans-Atlantic flight during WWII #769185
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    FAO Paul Kenny…Do you have more precise date than late July/early August or a clue as to where Whitney Straight met his wife on arrival?

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #769193
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    Ian…..The aerophilatelic historian John Wilson has made available a lot of his researches on wartime Pan American flights as PDFs at https://www.wasc.org.uk/WASC4_addl_pubs.html and has written a series of articles in Airpost Journal again as PDFs (especially 2016-2017) http://www.americanairmailsociety.org/html/airpost_journal.html ….September 2016 onwards is of particular interest but unfortunately September to November won’t download , December onwards will…years of reading there!

    in reply to: Purple Plain film UK satellite saturday 20th Mosquitoes #774155
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    Written by H E Bates whose pseudonym was Pilot Officer X .

    in reply to: Civilian trans-Atlantic flight during WWII #776373
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    The WWII Foynes and Botwood harbour logs survived , were transcribed by Peter Berry and are available from the Foynes Flying boat museum. In addition to the Clipper service to Lisbon followed by a connecting BOAC/KLM DC-3 to Bristol Whitchurch, BOAC also brought passengers up to Poole via Foynes. The Foynes logs for July and August 1942 list a few Clipper flights to and from Botwood (so presumably to/from New York) and several flights by American Export Airlines Sikorsky VS-44 flying boats, the latter listed as to/from New York. Just one or two Clippers and VS-44s were recorded at Foynes as to/from Poole. If the dates of Whitney Straight’s wife’s trip are known the field could be narrowed down. The BOAC Boeing 314 Atlantic circular route called at Baltimore in the USA so is perhaps an outside possibility.

    in reply to: WWII Flights To Lisbon #790277
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    A mix of KLM Dakotas and pre-war DC-3s being overhauled by Fokker[ATTACH=CONFIG]257735[/ATTACH]

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