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  • in reply to: Three-holer – the Boeing 727 in Europe #485707
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    Freighter 727s

    As I recall the last 727s built were the first (and last) Boeing built 727-200F models for Federal Express. UPS had a fleet of ancient 727-100s re-engined with new Rolls-Royce Tay engines (by Dee Howard?), which was a crowning ironic last act for the Trident vs. 727 saga ( the Trident was crippled by a lack of powerful enough engines whilst in production)
    Anybody got photos of these freighters?

    Keith…Has your example got the Valsan re-engined mods?

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #478995
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    ‘Heathrow ATC’ The First 50 Years’ by Brian Piket and Pete Bish has a list of accidents at Heathrow…these listed below are additional to those mentioned already in this thread

    7/47 York G-AIUP Over-ran 23L onto Duke of northumberland’s river, 4 s/injured
    10/49 Grumman Mallard NC2956 Crashed and burned on take-off, 6 fatalities, 1 injured
    10/50 BEA Viking G-AHPN Overshooting after GCA approach attempt on 28R (diversion from Northolt), crashed and burned ,28 fatalities of 30 on board
    1/55 BEA Viscount G-AMOK Hit barrier attempting takeoff on disused RWY 15(L?), considerably damaged but no injuries
    6/55 DH Dove G-ALTM Crashed short of RWY 10R when pilot shut down wrong engine
    12/60 BOAC 707 G-APFN Overran RWY 23L after landing nearly halfway down it and attempting a 100deg turn onto RWY33, gear collapsed, no injuries
    3/67 BOAC 707 G-APFP Landed with nose gear locked up, friction fire extinguished rapidly by AFS, no fatalities
    1/70 Viscount G-AWXI Emergency return to RWY 28R when engine caught fire, extinguished by AFS but I passenger seriously injured in evacuation
    3/78 Boeing 720B TF-VLB(Aer Lingus flight) Nose gear collapse after landing bounce on runway
    12/79 Pan Am 747 N 771PA No4 engine partially broke away on hard landing, potentially serious wing fire extinguished by AFS, No injuries noted but a/c needed substantial repair
    9/80 Pan Am DC-10 N83NA Aborted take off onRWY 28R, localized brake fires extinguished by AFS, 1 passenger broke leg evacuating
    5/81 HS 125 G-BISU Substantially damaged landing with left landing gear locked up
    11/97 Virgin A340-300 G-VSKY Skillful emergency landing with left main gear only partly extended RWY 27L, 7 minor injuries on evacuation

    Approximately 16 landing gear collapses/incidents also listed and 6 ground wide body collisions listed

    EGTC… No pics of 23L landings , unfortunately

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479018
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    LHR 05

    View from behind the Fields(Hunting, aka 3-bay alloy) hangar of Air France 727 approaching LHR 05, from left BA cargo shed, Air India Maintenance sign, earth mound
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/AF-727-LHR-05-900.jpg

    in reply to: Three-holer – the Boeing 727 in Europe #485832
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    Perhaps there should be an Airline History subsection! No harm in someone being thorough, though 🙂
    Lufthansa got their 727s into Heathrow as early as May 1964 I read and rapidly got rid of their overpowered 720Bs. There was a maintenance sharing agreement between SAS Swissair and KLM based on Douglas equipment which kept the 727 out of those markets and the attachment to the Caravelle and DC-9 in the other lines delayed the adoption of the 727 as you say, VeeOne
    Olympic was an early customer for the -200, too (seen landing on LHR 05:))
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/SX-CBD-LHR-05-900.jpg
    The 727 was used across the Atlantic wasn’t it, by Icelandair (or was Loftleidir)?

    The 727 which was developed under Joe Sutter’s leadership had sophisticated high-lift devices on its wing so it could operate into fields used by Convair liners and DC-6Bs (crucially La Guardia, New York) which also made it suitable for Pan Am’s services into Berlin-Templehof.

    Pan Am also equipped and crewed the Ariana Afghan 727 pictured which crashed 2 miles short of the runway at Gatwick Jan 1969
    http://www.gatwickaviationsociety.org.uk/YA-FAR.asp

    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/YA-FAR-LGW-900.jpg
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/YA-FAR-b-900.jpg

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479035
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    As the caption said I was on top of the earth mound to the East of the Air-India hangar T4 area now…yes they’re on Airliners.net. Maybe Kjell Nilsson got more shots of 05 ops in 1977 but I haven’t seen them
    This is the only other one I have
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/LH-737-05-900.jpg

    longshot,
    Nice pics there. I’ve seen that Northwest B707 shot before! Great stuff. Where abouts did you take them from?

    Perhaps someone should start a thread on Heathrow’s runway 05/23 with pics in it 🙂

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479039
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    Northwest at LHR

    Damn shame about the pilot’s suicide! Didn’t know that

    Northwest Orient had just started a through-plane deal with Pan Am from Minneapolis…I think they switched crews at Chicago or on the East Coast…think I mentioned a similar set-up with Delta on your DC-8 thresd

    Hi Longshot. That 747 that almost hit the hotels was flown by the captain alone as the first officer was ill. He established on the false localiser which took him down the ILS slightly to the right of the true localiser. Very low cloud meant he only popped out into VMC tens of feet above the hotels. The CAA and the press hounded him with talk of imprisonment even though it was British Airways’ policy to pressure crews to take flights out whatever problems the crew had. This pilot committed suicide due to the pressure and the ignominous end to his career. Sad. Because despite the ILS error he performed as a top pilot under impossible conditions and saved the day. I blame BA.

    What was Northwest Orient doing at Heathrow. I do recall their red fins and silver bodies at that time. Were they flying for TWA or PanAm?

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479173
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    Couple more …

    A pleasure flight Rapide of Island Air Services crashed short of the runway (23L? or 28R?) about 1952 caught in a Stratocruisers wake…badly injured the pilot….and didn’t a 747 almost land on the A4 in lousy visibility back in the 80s or 90s?

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479193
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    Use of RWY 05 Heathrow

    The Piket and Bish book on Heathrow ATC has a section on the difficulties of using 05. I managed to get a few shots from the earth mound by the Air India hangar of its use in 1971 and Kjell Nilsson got a nice shot of a BA 747 in 1977 (from top of T2?)
    http://www.airliners.net/photo/British-Airways/Boeing-747-136/0282437/L/http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Northwest-05-900.jpg
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/TAP-727-05-900.jpg

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479232
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    [QUOTE=EGTC;1751255]What about the plane that crashed in Southall, wasnt that from Heathrow? It crashed very close to where my grandad lived at the time!

    That was the independent Viking in 1958
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_London_Vickers_Viking_accident

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479237
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    Thatb was the TCA DC-8 that ran off 28R into a Colnbrook cabbage field Nov 1963 see
    http://www.400scalehangar.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47751
    and
    http://greyjumper.blogspot.com/2009/01/air-crash-at-heathrow-1963.html

    Don’t know about the Air India Super Connie , but a Lufthansa Boeing almost landed at NHT in 1964

    in reply to: London Heathrows safety record #479249
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    Heathrow near-misses and incidents

    A few that come to mind….

    BOAC L-749 Constellation landed (on23L?) with one main gear retracted after burning off fuel…photo in Charles Woodley’s recent LHR book (ca.1957)

    Pan Am 707 landed Northolt instead of LHR (flown out after lightening) (1960)
    http://www.abpic.co.uk/popup.php?q=1001607

    Lufthansa 720B had nosegear collapse landing on 10L in summer 1962
    http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/2673622/Hulton-Archive

    Near miss (airmiss) between Olympic 727 inbound for LHR 23L and Indian Air Force Super Constellation inbound for Northolt ca. 1969
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/BG579-NHT-900.jpg

    Finally an Iraqi Trident nearly’ lost it’ just after lifting off from LHR 10R…it was just before Christmas 1973 (I think, but definitely after the Papa iIndia crash)…as its landing gear came up it started descending back towards the runway but managed to recover and resume climbing…. the Tower evidently saw the event as they asked the pilot over the radio if he was OK…the reply was a bit of a mumble ….the incident was reported unofficially to BEA via Flight magazine

    in reply to: Soviet Jets before the wall came down #485933
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    Tupolev types

    Tu-104 LHR 1973
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Tu-104-42403-900.jpg
    Tu-134 LHR 1975
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Tu-134-LZ-TUE-900.jpg
    Tu-144 nose-down LBG 1975
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Tu-144-77144-900a.jpg
    Tu-144 nose-up LBG 1975
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Tu-144-77144-900b.jpg
    Tu-154 Egyptair LHR 1973
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Tu-154-SU-AXD-900.jpg
    Tu-154 Malev LHR 1975
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Tu-154-MALEV-900.jpg
    Tu-154 Pulkovo LHR December 2002 from the last remaining balcony of ‘Queens Building/T2 Roof Enclosure
    http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/A30yoyo/Tu-154--PULKOVO-900.jpg

    in reply to: Douglas DC-10 – the second Jumbo #486125
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    Jumbo Jet

    Flying Tigers apparently hi-jacked the name.Jumbo Jet’ and painted it on their new stretched DC-8-63 freighters back in 1968 (but abandoned the name when the 747 arrived)…here’s a contemporary pic
    http://www.ailesquebecoises.com/viewtopic.php?p=143648&sid=dfae87cd6f71ba7ac0672402a97d1667
    and a model
    http://www.dc-8jet.com/ftldc863cf.htm

    in reply to: Landings at Indira Gandhi International Airport DELHI #486133
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    Are the authorities relaxed about aircraft photography at Delhi or do you get trouble?

    in reply to: Boeings in the mid-1980s #486494
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    Excalibur III arrival Heathrow 1951

    Pathe film of the arrival…Blair in Excalibur III knocked more than an hour off the existing NY-London record….the following June he flew from Norway to Alaska over the Pole in the Mustang, then from Alaska to New York. The preserved ExcaliburIII is in the NASM in Washington D.C.
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=33131http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/3334033141_7127ff3eda_z.jpg
    P-51C Mustang “Excalibur III” by Garrett O’Donoghue, on Flickr

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