Possibly a consideration with diesel (as sold for motor vehicles) is the waxing at the temperatures aircraft experience around 40,000 ft?
As for disposal I would have thought clearing the area and setting the spillage on fire would be the least environmentally damaging, though a tad dramatic and bad P.R.
I thought commercial aviation fuel was kerosene not diesel and I wouldn’t assume its not flammable in a spillage!
A-29 Hudson Wright Cyclone engines based on Lockheed 14
A-28 Hudson P&W Twin Wasp engines based on Lockheed 14
B-34 Ventura P&W R-2800 engines based on Lockheed 18 Lodestar
I wonder what will happen to Aeroplane’s photo archive… does that go with the magazine to Kelsey?
Heston References
Neil….At the bottom of the Wikipedia page for Heston Aerodrome there is an excellent list of books , magazines and websites relating to Heston. ‘Coming In To Land’ by Tim Sherwood is essential and I think it’s still available to purchase from Hounslow Libraries (the publisher) for about £13 (or can be borrowed from the library)…The ‘Airfield Focus’ booklet on Heston is very good but out of print (I think).
Re Milk deliveries in the 50s/60s…yes a day in the summer sun was guaranteed to ‘yoghurtize’ your doorstep pinta! The Job’s guy I helped had been a medical orderly so was left behind with the wounded when the Dunkirk evacuation happened and spent the war in a PoW camp …..Mick
Steady on! Might be a milk bill outstanding from 1958 🙂 Check your private messages (top RH corner this page).
I think you lived in the 1950s built houses which replaced the derelict house I thought for a long time was the one hit by the Mustang…did your father work in movies?
Heston Airport
Scroll down the Collectair page on Woodason Models for a section on Heston
http://www.collectair.com/woodason.html
And there is a Yahoo Group which you can join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HestonAirport/
…..Viscount, Canberra and Hunter. So, UK could hold its head up….
I’d say that with Canberra, Viscount, Valiant from about 1952 to 1958 the UK could hold its head up (note it’s mostly Vickers under George Edwards)…if the Comet I had held together and the Britannia programme had been run like the Viscount’s and the V1000 hadn’t been cancelled there would have been a lot more exports. Later on the BAC-111 and HS146 did fairly well
Precisely when DID Britain’s aircraft rule the world?
The station photographer at Northolt recorded the take-off (, no payload, enough fuel to get to Heathrow) and it got off in about a third of the runway. It was a JT-4A powered original Intercontinental model not the later developed JT-3D fanjet model with the developed high lift wing….which all goes to show the 707 could use a 1 mile runway at the right weights 🙂 and they sometimes flew in an out of Southend for resprays/maintenance, I believe
http://www.abpic.co.uk/results.php?q=pan++northolt&fields=all&sort=latest&limit=10
There was a worldwide programme of runway extensions in the early Sixties for the 707(which had entered service in late 1958)…the VC10 went into service April 1964. The 747entered service 1970 overweight and underpowered and another round of runway extensions occurred (e.g at Heathrow). As you say the USAF had adequate runways (dating back to the late 50s in the UK) typically 10000ft for SAC bases (though Heyford was a little shorter and 9000ft for TAC bases and the RAF did make do with 7000ft in many cases.
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This incident occurred in the early 1970s. Runways adequate for a B707 were few and far between then. Landing performance was not great in comparison with, say, a VC10, which after all was designed to use shorter runways. Much runway lengthening took place throughout the 70s at both civil and military airfields. The USAF bases did have adequate runways in those days as they were built for Boeing’s finest, but many RAF bases did not.The runway length figures quoted for the mid-eighties are for a different aviation era.
THe book doesn’t give an ASDA figure for Greenham so you could be correct
Probably not relevant but Bedford had 10500ft(ASDA 10500 also) and Boscombe Down had 10537ft (ASDA 10537also)
Heathrow wasn’t extended to 12800ft until the 747 arrived I think
Wasn’t GCs r/w almost 10,000 but with over 900ft overrun at each end of the runway which could be used if needed?
A quick look at RAF ‘EN ROUTE SUPPLEMENT’ 1986 bought at Culdrose for £1 has Brize 10006ft, Fairford 9997ft Greenham 10000ft Lakenheath 9000ft Mildenhall 9240ft Upper Heyford 9600ft Machrihanish 🙂 10003ft…most except last two have ASDA (accelerate/stop distances) about 1000ft longer
Heathrow however had 12800ft (ASDA 12800) on 28R/10L…Gatwick 10364ft (ASDA 10607 on 08 direction)
I’m absolutely sure that I have seen reference to GC ESAs storing special weapons well after the SAC departures and into its RAF preriod, however can’t find evidence at mo so can’t argue any further.
An irrate RAF officer (even if only notional/acting station commander), ranting about nukes at an aircraft landing on an airfield that isn’t even generally open kind of makes some sense against this background – even though I don’t think Greenham is the airfield in question.JB when Greenham was operational it was one of the longest runways in Europe with almost 12,000ft max usable tarmac, it and LH and both could support the B-36 with its longer t/o run.
B-17s at Bovingdon
Think that was for ‘The War Lover’ and I think I saw the B-17s when they came through Gatwick about 1961