Ian Dury Film
Probably the most important musician and band on the edge of Rock that Britain produced…I was listening to the guitar solo on ‘Clever Trevor’ on R2 yesterday…unbelievably sophisticated playing…I bet several of his tracks are still banned on the BBC….must see the film
Particularly like the lower 2…good lighting
what year are your retro shots from?, like the 747 shot alot
DC-7C 1968…. 747-200 1971….
KLM Oldies
Thanks for that. Perhaps I was wrong, it might be more accurate to say this capability hasn’t been widely used in the last 15-20 years.
I suppose ‘occasionally’ rather than ‘fairly often’ is more accurate for the 1970s use :)…I was surprised the 747-400s carry a fifth these days and I didn’t realise the Air-India 747 lost over the Atlantic had one
747s with 5 engines
As noted by earlier posters, several large airliners have had the capability of carrying a spare engine to an outlying station. It was originally thought that this would prove utile to airlines, however in practice the capabilty has not been widely utilized. Engines are usually transported by other means, sometimes in a chartered freighter, everything from a C130 to a 747 has been used.
It is interesting to note in the picture that the fan has been removed and only the core engine has blockers installed….no doubt this reduces the drag compared to blocking the entire engine…….. though I suspect the drag is still significand and that the resultant performance of the mother ship still leaves a lot to be desired. Carrying an extra 15,000lbs or so would also be quite a significant payload hit. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone on the commercial forum can actually locate some performance charts for carrying a spare engine around this way.
It was used fairly often in the early days of the 747…the P&W engines weren’t mature, I picked up the El Al one on approach to LHR 28R in 1972 when he declined a visual switch to 28L because he was carrying a 5th pod (and presumably didn’t wan’t to do any fancy flying once set up nicely on approach)…which gave me a chance to leg down to the ‘Travellers Friend’ for a photo :)…You can search them out on Airliners .net but you need to use various search terms like 5, five, fifth,spare, engine/s/d for 4-engined types and 4.four,fourth, spare etc… on tri-jets… there’s a cracker by Christos Psarras of a TriStar climbing from Athens with a spare…M West
Heston Revisited by Denys Bowring is in Aeroplane Monthly April 1995…there is a photo of the Northrop on p16 but no mention of when it departed…as I quoted in post#11 of this thread the Air-Britain abix forum post # 70456 says it departed July 1947…I think the candidates are the Sea Eagle or the Comet I nose ….(and apologies to MBB as I see you contacted Air Britain a couple of years ago with a simlar result?)
Fernic Crusair
What is this unusaul beasty??
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=21212
Mark
Googling Tandem Wing New York gives it as a Fernic monoplane. Aerofiles give a Fernic FT-2 (NX120M) with 2 Wright engines. Its designer , Romanian George Fernic was killed at the National Air Races a year later in one of his tandem wing machines (possibly a smaller single seater)
Mystery Flying Boat in combat footage
Looks like the Potez CAMS161 ,( bottom right photo) (top right is 141?)
Scrapped Argonaut
The place this Argonaut AND the British Airways 707-436 cut up at Cosford should have gone was a Rolls Royce Museum (which doesnt exist AFAIK)…little point in preserving the cockpit of either …it was the Rolls engines fitted which made them interesting and historic…(in the case of the 707 the fin and ventral fin mods were a noteworthy British requirement)
Frankfurt ‘Museum’
Enjoyed them! Well done!
Sea Eagle Fuselage Heston early Fifties
Info c/o V.S. on Air Britain abix forum…there was a photo and letter in Aeroplane Monthly Apr74 from JM Darwin of Swindon of the Sea Eagle behind the hangars used by BOAC at Heston ca.1951…in good condition grey with black underneath….scan attached
photos of the Comet nose which was at Heston en route to Heathrow on
http://www.abpic.co.uk/results.php?q=G-ALYZ&fields=all&sort=latest&limit=10
Fire dump Argonaut LHR ca. 1972
I shot this through the window of a KLM DC-9 taxying out to LHR 10R by the Perry Oaks Sludge Plant where T5 is now
Must have been the last survivor of its (sub-) type…? 🙁
Think you’re right….though there’s a North Star preserved in Canada I believe….’LHJ was replaced as the LHR fire dump victim by Comet 4 G-APDT ,I think
BEA Dakotas and Rapides
I was surprised how many Daks were listed for BEA in 1957….noteworthy that they outlived the Viking with BEA….the Rapides served the Isles of Scilly till replaced by S-61 helicopters in 1964…I dont know when they finished in Scotland