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December 14, 2008 at 9:40 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1193127

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[QUOTE=battle_damaged;1334810]Hmm…where might that have been? Not the former British Eagle hangars by any chance…??
Alan

No, southside , behind Fields…. where T4 is now…. the Howard 500 is on the taxiway block 94/97

December 14, 2008 at 9:37 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1193131

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R3Y Tradewind

A friend of mine, now deceased, was adamant that he saw a Convair Tradewind flying boat over the Wirral in the 1950s. The sighting was never proven but I wonder if anyone knows if any of the few USN examples ever reached Europe.

Don’t know , but here’s a pic!

December 11, 2008 at 12:30 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1197130

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I should have mentioned, of course, that it was pre-1960….not terday.

Here’s one that did a round-the-world during the 1987 Paris Air Show. On board were Patrick Fourticq, Henri Pescaroloo, Hubert Auriol, and Art Powell.
They wanted to beat Howard Hughes’ rtw record, which I believe they did. (they were in the 18, Hughes in a 14)

I figured it was a real SNB rather than a modern-day retro warbird…I probably saw it at the ‘Bushe

Hughes was originally going to use the DC-1 which he owned but sold it instead to Lord Forbes….didn’t know his L14 fight had been ‘replicated’

Attached a Howard 500 (Ventura conversion) taxying past my workplace around 1974…rare…ish!

December 10, 2008 at 7:41 pm in reply to: Spitfire wing..a new view #1197340

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Spitfire wing variations etc.

What was the result of cropping the elliptical wing and extending the elliptical wing….others more expert than me will know the marques. Was a direct comparison in performance possible between otherwise equivalent Spitfires with the later ‘elliptical’ wing and the ‘Spiteful/Attacker’ wing? The ‘war-winning’ P-51 was created by Rolls replacing the Allison engine with the Spitfire’s Merlin, followed by installation refinements by North American…..was the P-51’s ‘paddle-bladed’ prop ever fitted to a Spifire to see if there were improvements in performance?

December 10, 2008 at 1:02 am in reply to: Spitfire wing..a new view #1198342

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Spitfire vs Mustang

I suspect the area-rule didn’t apply at 400-500 mph…it was used on marginally supersonic aircraft….(the F-102 comes to mind)….I;ve read that the radiator arrangement on the P-51 was cleverly designed and the heat dissipated created positive thrust…it also had quite large flaps I think allowing a higher wing loading for take-off?….there must have been some comparisons made in the literature about the range and top speed of the two types…..the propeller used on the P-51 also looked more modern to my eyes.

December 9, 2008 at 9:35 pm in reply to: Spitfire wing..a new view #1198522

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Spitfire vs Mustang

I’m sure this has been aired a thousand times, but how come the P-51 was so good without an elliptical wing.?..wasn’t there a strong element of fashion in choosing wing shape and whole aircraft styling just as there is in the car industry….I sometimes wonder if Constellation crews felt slightly embarrassed in their triple fin curvy planes by the late Fifties

December 7, 2008 at 12:36 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1200967

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Martin 202 original tail shape

A post-war ‘DC-3 replacement’….think the 202 was unpressurized,,,,had to have a much larger dorsal fin fitted, and more dihedral outboard of the engines by the look of it

http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?q=1940s+airplane+source:life&imgurl=5e0c16ffdd9d6371

December 7, 2008 at 12:07 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1200975

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Beech 18….SNB….C-45…Expeditor….less common versions

Somewhat smaller, our very own Blackbushe-based SNB-5 BuAer 51105, also courtesy Bob Ruffle:

I’ve scratched around for a less-common version ,best I can find is N445DM, converted to a tri-tail Dumod Liner as in the abpic photo then reportedly stretched another 75 inches? in the Gary Chambers photo on airliners.net

http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1039867/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unknown/Beech-TC-45H-Dumodliner-Tri-Gear/0486880/M/

then there are all the turboprop and swept fin versions!!……

December 5, 2008 at 11:39 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1201628

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Can’t do you a Seamaster, Longshot, but here’s the next best thing, taken by Bob Ruffle at Blackbushe on 4 September 1957…

The Dutch Mariners were Patrol bombers but the USN had them as transports ,too ….in this Life.com shot contract operated by an airline in WWII?…in the South Pacific somewhere

http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?q=Transport+source:life&imgurl=abefc1825ab0f541

December 5, 2008 at 12:21 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1202513

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Beriev 200 amphibian

Imagine catching that from Gatwick to your Black Sea holiday resort. Reminds me a little of the Martin P6M Seamaster (below) which unfortunately wasnt a Transport type! (USN photo from Wikipedia….Seamaster)

December 1, 2008 at 12:26 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1206973

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Britten Norman Stretch Islander

Saw this early summer 1970 at Bembridge, this didn’t go into production , but was later chopped around and converted to the prototype Trislander ready for the Farnborough show in September 1970

December 1, 2008 at 12:22 am in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1206985

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Less Common C-124 variants

The YC-124B was a prototype for a T34 turboprop powered tanker which wasnt ordered. note the dihedral tailplane ,,,,wonder how fast it was? The JC-124C was a test bed for the nose-mounted massive XT57 turboprop which was to power the cancelled C-132 transport….was there a photo of it flying just on the test engine…..Illustrations and info from Rene J Francillon’s Putnam ‘McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Vol I’

Was there also a batch of C-124s with door alterations to carry missiles?

November 28, 2008 at 11:18 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1208726

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Cessna 620

Was the Cessna 620 designed by the same team as the 310, led I believe by Steve Wittman ?….( he also designed the Cessna spring-steel undercarriage used on the single engine types)

November 26, 2008 at 11:12 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1210761

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[QUOTE=keithnewsome;1327611]Can we include the C74 Globemaster as less common ?? Keith.

OH YES!!!!!

November 26, 2008 at 8:56 pm in reply to: Less Common Transport Aircraft #1211070

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Dornier Turboprop Seaplane

[QUOTE
Here’s an unlikely contestant for the description ‘transport’, but why not….

cheers
Alan[/QUOTE]

Fortunately ‘less common’!! :)….up there with the Farman Jabiru for looks in my eye!
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