attempt to claw back some of the traffic that is currently using Emirates (at BHX, GLA and MAN), Singapore Airlines (MAN) and Malaysian Airlines (MAN) to fly to Australia by avoiding the hellhole known as LHR.
Bad form to quote yourself but the CAA has published results of a survey which indicates that over 180,000 passengers flew MAN-Australia via anywhere else but LHR in 2003; sample size of the survey is not known unfortunately but it does state 90,000 passenger originated in the North West. Of interest was:
MAN-DXB-Australia = 44,000 pax (about 24% of the total MAN-DXB total)
MAN-KUL-Australia = 45,000 pax
MAN-SIN-Australia = 81,000 pax
I’m sure with there ONEworld partners they cover all points within europe?
The MAN-London-Australia market was estimated to be around 44,000 passengers i.e. only 1/5th the total market flying from MAN to Australia, so it looks like people are voting with their feet and avoiding the oneworld connection!
David
Transport Minister John Anderson said he was gravely concerned by Qantas’ (qan.ASX:Quote,News) failure to get better access to European air routes.
“I am really concerned, really concerned, that Qantas just does not have the access it needs into Europe and into London particular,” Anderson told reporters.
Yes, so deprived that they get Flightline to ringfence their slots at LHR by flying to MAN everyday, with an empty aircraft with the absolute minimum of advertising of this alleged feeder service.
Can’t get into the London if wanting to serve the UK on increased frequencies? Simple – go elsewhere in the UK NOW and not in the 3 to 5 years when they submitted their plans for the increased UK-Australia frequencies which they subsquently won, and attempt to claw back some of the traffic that is currently using Emirates (at BHX, GLA and MAN), Singapore Airlines (MAN) and Malaysian Airlines (MAN) to fly to Australia by avoiding the hellhole known as LHR.
Can’t be worse than Suckling who operated a 2 daily weekday MAN-AMS service using Do228s!
According to tonight’s Manchester local rag, they are planning to launch services to AMS in September and are contemplating services to Ireland and Germany.
All of the FCA long haul programme is now operated on the 767-300.
The past 2 weeks G-OOAN has been operating the GLA flights.
Their 767’s have a 62J/196Y seating config – 258 seats in total.
Seat pitch will not be an issue.
The last time I noted a 757 on a SFB service was on 03/06 when G-OOOZ operated on the FCA097 to MAN. However, this is also the last time I managed to tie-up one of the FCA transatlantic services so perhaps it/others may have operated some transatlantic services since then.
bmi Washington was cancelled yet again today, A330 also went tech for them (parked up outside MYT Maintenence).
I’m sure they don’t operate to IAD on Tuesdays?
From Ringway Reports:
Volga Dnepr Antonov 124 RA-82044 touched down from Denver early morning as VDA451. The aircraft subsequently daystopped, heading off to Cancun early morning as VDA4234.
I’ve logged VDA4234 as leaving at 2043 yesterday evening!
Bmused, just a quick question for you: how much of the non-refundable loans given by the Japanese government to the Japanese companies taking part in the 787 programme is going to be repaid?
Copyright good chap, Copyright.
Boeing own the MD name, image… the whole kit and caboodle. They can do what they want with it.
But if one these new-fangled “Boeing” aircraft crashed, I’m pretty sure we’ll find that it will be an McDonnel Douglas MD80/MD90/MD11 that’ll be reported in the media. If so, I trust that someone will be writing to the media to correct them 😉
TF-FII using callsign BMA9931 now on approach (2125)
David
I believe they also used to operate MAN-LAX and dropped the route due to poor loads.
The loads were decent enough (some 110,000 pax over the 18 months or so it operated), but the front-end of the plane may not have been overly-subscribed. But throw into the ring “the BA shuttle service” and the “hidden” encouragement by BA for the premium pax to go via LHR and you can see why it wasn’t destined to last; I believe the BHX-JFK was similarly handicapped when they changed it from 767s to 757s which probably affected cargo carrying capability which might be able to mitigate the lack of premium payers.
Tut! Semantics……….. 😉
Midland’s first international route was Derby (Burnaston) – Ostend in 1956 with DC3s.
Let’s be a bit pedantic – weren’t they known as Derby Aviation back then (I’m far too young to know)? I believe the 1st international route out of LHR for them was Amsterdam in 1986 (can’t find any notes about that route in my 1985 reference book).
David
Indian Airlines is mainly a domestic carrier – they do have some international routes, mainly to South East Asia and the Middle East. They have no plans outside of that area.
I’m sure they applied to serve both BHX and MAN from December – I’ll see if I can find the relevant link. Wouldn’t be the 1st time Indian Airlines have been at MAN though, as those with “long memories” will remember!
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What I neglected to post last night was that the airport has quoted the annual number of passengers that reputed to be in MAN’s catchment area going to Bangkok and China on other airlines…they are are 100,000 and 35,000 respetively. Perhaps we could see a 3 weekly 744 from Thai and a weekly 744 from Air China?
David
Well, GA, we all know these are the “usual” suspects but Thai have previoulsy indicated their willingness to come to MAN from 2008 in one of the PR pieces a year or 2 back when outlining their expansion plans and SA are airline that did have MAN back in their plans a couple of years ago for a mid-to-long-term return; unfortunately, they keep managing to buy or negotiate extra slots at LHR and are a little bit reluctant to begin here.
VS is mentioned in dispatches (seeking futher Caribbean and US destinations with Las Vegas specifically named) and they also put the Barbados route in a press release recently; there is a suggestion that the Orlando run may be 10 weekly next summer and the Barbados service will run in the summer. However, they do blot their copybook by having their station manager quote the following about the Orlando service: “We have seen it grow from a summer season-only operation to seven days a week, year-round.”
Can anyone (apart from GA) spot what is wrong with that statement?
10.30 XLA2194 PAPHOS
12.00 XLA219A LARNACAWhy does the Larnaca have an “A” on the of the flight number?
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Err…noticed the similarity of the 1st three numbers? All it needs is for someone to read back the wrong instruction and we could have a bit of a bump in the sky! Hence, the variation in callsign.
The “V” means nothing with regard to “w-patterns” as yesterday at MAN we saw G-JMAA operate the XLA201V to Malaga in the morning, returning some 6 or 7 hours later as the XLA211V. Anyway, why wouldn’t they use W as the letter and not V if they wanted to signify not a based aircraft?
The A300 came in from Tenerife and departed to Palma – tomorrow see the Venice flight!
Couple of “boring” sub-charters today: TCX 753 operating for XLA and FCA opping for MYT. Don’t know which terminals they departed from though!