The feeder has to be operated as a QF service and not as a codeshared BA shuttle services as the slots being protected are QFs.
Heard of grim stories that the one of the MAN hierarchy thinks there’s nothing wrong with airlines codesharing into MAN rather than flying their own metal instead 🙁
An alternative answer…British Airways undue influence as a shareholder; when QF stopped the LHR extension, BA operated QF feeder services using 737s but that lasted 6 months before they were withdrawn as they were competing with the BA shuttle service.
Unfortuntely, myopia has set in and QF aren’t looking beyond LHR for the next 3 to 5 years thereby letting the likes of Emirates, Singapore Airlines and Malaysian to tap into the UK-Australia market which exists from the regions.
The new feeder service has been a spectacular success – sometimes they’ve attracted as many as zero passengers, and tomorrow’s services should be a Titan 146 which positioned in on a Flightline callsign.
David
An alternative answer…British Airways undue influence as a shareholder; when QF stopped the LHR extension, BA operated QF feeder services using 737s but that lasted 6 months before they were withdrawn as they were competing with the BA shuttle service.
Unfortuntely, myopia has set in and QF aren’t looking beyond LHR for the next 3 to 5 years thereby letting the likes of Emirates, Singapore Airlines and Malaysian to tap into the UK-Australia market which exists from the regions.
The new feeder service has been a spectacular success – sometimes they’ve attracted as many as zero passengers, and tomorrow’s services should be a Titan 146 which positioned in on a Flightline callsign.
David
Both countries have the right to go to 40 per week and MAN is a bit more than a rumour….it’s the words of one of the A-I board!
Websites concerned:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1041114/asp/business/story_4002390.asp
http://www.deepikaglobal.com/ENG3_sub.asp?ccode=ENG3&newscode=80947
Both countries have the right to go to 40 per week and MAN is a bit more than a rumour….it’s the words of one of the A-I board!
Websites concerned:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1041114/asp/business/story_4002390.asp
http://www.deepikaglobal.com/ENG3_sub.asp?ccode=ENG3&newscode=80947
They weren’t that regular though! Forgot the LOT Il18s and Tarom Il18s at the weekend though the Balkan variety were somewhat rarer.
Wasn’t the Crossair Metro that arrived every Sunday tied in to the Air Florida flight?
They weren’t that regular though! Forgot the LOT Il18s and Tarom Il18s at the weekend though the Balkan variety were somewhat rarer.
Wasn’t the Crossair Metro that arrived every Sunday tied in to the Air Florida flight?
For the Northwest 747Fs (flight number NW923 seems to be sticking in my mind), we’re talking more 1979-1981ish; Air Europe was formed in 1978.
“Vintage” propliners for that time would have been the Kar Air Swingtail Dc6 OH-KDA operating for Finnair 2 or 3 times per week (prior to Finnair’s own DC9s talking over the service with Air Atlanta 737s having a go on the route in the 1990s), Fred Olsen L188s operating for SAS routing to Copenhagen and Clyden Airways Dc3s to/from Dublin (operating at nighttime as Clyden 100 as I remember).
David
For the Northwest 747Fs (flight number NW923 seems to be sticking in my mind), we’re talking more 1979-1981ish; Air Europe was formed in 1978.
“Vintage” propliners for that time would have been the Kar Air Swingtail Dc6 OH-KDA operating for Finnair 2 or 3 times per week (prior to Finnair’s own DC9s talking over the service with Air Atlanta 737s having a go on the route in the 1990s), Fred Olsen L188s operating for SAS routing to Copenhagen and Clyden Airways Dc3s to/from Dublin (operating at nighttime as Clyden 100 as I remember).
David
Strange how we should use Glasgow Prestwick but not say that the city that they are linking that airport is not Dusseldorf but Niederrhein; then again Geography has never been one of Ryanair’s strong points 😉
David
Strange how we should use Glasgow Prestwick but not say that the city that they are linking that airport is not Dusseldorf but Niederrhein; then again Geography has never been one of Ryanair’s strong points 😉
David
If CX and QF restart, I would hope that MAN insists that BA codeshares the service and drops the codeshares on the shuttle service; all you need to do is cast your mind back a few years and discover CX codesharing the shuttle service whilst BA didn’t reciprocate on the HKG service that CX operated – a good starting point for any new service would be to operate it non-stop as that type of service shows a greater ability to be more popular than a one-stop service! I’m not anticipating QF for at least 3 more years, if ever 🙁 When they got the extra frequencies to Britain, they stated that they intended to focus all their UK operations at LHR for 3 to 5 years.
AS for BA, given that they have (through BACitiExpress) steadily built up their hub to make it 33 destinations available ex-MAN from the 20+ based aircraft, I would hope that the expansion of T3 would enable more wide-bodied stands to be built and consequently drop a subtle hint to BA that the facilities are now in place for a couple more aircraft for long-haul! Having said that, it would be nice to know what’s going to replace the DHC8s – more ERJ145s (quite likely) or some EMB170s (allows for route capacity to be bumped up whilst freeing up the ERJ145s for the DHC8 routes).
If CX and QF restart, I would hope that MAN insists that BA codeshares the service and drops the codeshares on the shuttle service; all you need to do is cast your mind back a few years and discover CX codesharing the shuttle service whilst BA didn’t reciprocate on the HKG service that CX operated – a good starting point for any new service would be to operate it non-stop as that type of service shows a greater ability to be more popular than a one-stop service! I’m not anticipating QF for at least 3 more years, if ever 🙁 When they got the extra frequencies to Britain, they stated that they intended to focus all their UK operations at LHR for 3 to 5 years.
AS for BA, given that they have (through BACitiExpress) steadily built up their hub to make it 33 destinations available ex-MAN from the 20+ based aircraft, I would hope that the expansion of T3 would enable more wide-bodied stands to be built and consequently drop a subtle hint to BA that the facilities are now in place for a couple more aircraft for long-haul! Having said that, it would be nice to know what’s going to replace the DHC8s – more ERJ145s (quite likely) or some EMB170s (allows for route capacity to be bumped up whilst freeing up the ERJ145s for the DHC8 routes).
Ryanair are tied to LPL for around 10 years – it’s their North of England (or, now Northwest England) base, so any European routes will be from there.
Ryanair are tied to LPL for around 10 years – it’s their North of England (or, now Northwest England) base, so any European routes will be from there.