No mention of the US in the referred China Daily article. What a ridiculously tabloid article title.
Arguably, the free market has a better history of supporting industry than governments do. For an example, look what has happened to the UK aviation and auto industries.
Hm, did the UK of 1946-1990 have a less free market than, say, France or West Germany?
What about the GM bailout… the US government saving a carmaker in a free market environment.
Like your signature says, perhaps one should try to find the golden middle road.
Didn’t realize that the EJ200 was that slim
I think the RR website guys were just lazy when they added the EJ200 data.
The MTU and Avio sites say the inlet/fan diameter is 740/737 mm.
Rolls Royce website just says “diameter: 29in (0.74m)”.
Meanwhile, snecma’s site says the M88-2/4E has a 696 mm inlet while the ECO 9t has a 790mm inlet.
http://www.mtu.de/en/products_services/military_business/programs/ej200/index.html
http://www.aviogroup.com/en/catalog/military/engines/ej200
http://www.snecma.com/IMG/files/fiche_m88_2011_hd_modulvoir_file_fr.pdf
So you’d be happy sending in NH-90s, CH-47s, UH-60 etc loaded with troops and equipment unescorted so they can be “shot up”?
The point was the Ka-50 and German Tigers were bought for recon and tank hunting. The Russians have plenty other turreted choppers to escort their transport helos into hot areas… why use your Ka-50 for CAS when you can use it for its intended role?
The (West)Germans had to worry about digging in and defending against thousands of tanks, not sending helicopter raids through flak in something like Vietnam or South Ossetia.
Agree, but since you can have both capabilities in the same helo (even the same Tiger airframe, as Spain and Australia demonstrate :)) no problem at all, it’s still a regrettable decision.
Only if you want to send it to a small war.
It’s almost like the old Ka-50/52 fixed gun vs Mi-28 turret debates.
Tiger .de was sold as a Kiowa-on-steroids.
In a real war, why would you want to send your precious few recon/tank hunter helicopters (be it a Ka-50 or the Tiger.de or Kiowa or MD-500 Defender) on a gun CAS mission? You want them sniping tanks, not getting shot up by flak.
If your situation is so desperate you need your ~80 recon helis to run CAS for your 200’000 man army, I’m afraid 80x flying 23/30mm won’t help you much.
Over Libya, French Gazelles with 4 HOT were still effective. H_K posted that over 600 HOT missiles had been fired, IIRC. Plenty hard targets even in that limited war.
Plenty targets for IDF Defenders and Syrian Gazelles in past wars too.
So DSI guy (JSLLL) gets banned, while a vile bigot like Nopia is still posting. :confused:
DSI guy is fun: He’s parodying those who keep saying “my fighter is awesome because it has (insert acronym)” as well as the “my fighter was first to introduce (random acronym)” crowd.
you wont see long range antiship missile hanging from JAS-39A as you see under JF-17.
lol
http://www.vectorsite.net/avgripen_1.jpg
I can guess the reply. “RBS 15 is not long range antiship missile is only 70km in 1990’s version compared to 250km YJ-83 for the JF-17” which entered service when exactly…
Btw I don’t want to derail the Russian Aviation thread, so I’ll post this here too: http://www.shtokman.ru/en/about/
Why does Gazprom need Total and Statoil to help develop Shtokman field, if Russia is so independent and doesn’t need outside engineers. Explain why the Navy is buying Mistrals too.
I think it’s about Saab aero knowing they won’t be able to extract much more money from the Swedish state than what’s stipulated in the contracts they get.
Unlike say BAe who can keep multiplying the CVF/Astute build costs with seemingly no repercussion from the UK government.
When they ask for a billion and a half to add four catapults to two carriers, the ministry of def. just seems to go “Oh you want another billion and a half pounds? Alright, I’m sure you’re being honest about it.”
Surely the Canadians deserve to be singled out for their confusing designation soup (Orion->Aurora, A310MRTT->Polaris, EH101->Cormorant and others.) Then there’s the Danish who were the first user of the F-35… Draken.
-Need for 100% political independance or super power political support, Rafale>>Gripen
Gripen has a US engine which is license produced in Sweden.
Horizon frigates have US gas turbines which are license produced in Italy.
Are France’s Horizon frigates dependent on US support?
why is Typhoon even mentioned?
So they can play their tune of “Typhoon may never be multirole, everyone should buy Rafale instead.”
I don’t necessarily disagree with this (good choice for India), but it’s annoying to hear about it in every thread about the Gripen, EF, and now even Tornado.
You Rafale guys are just like the F-35 guys who used to post their powerpoint slides and quoted articles and crap in every thread about Typhoon/Rafale/Sukhoi/MiG/Gripen/etc.
I think you might be even worse than them. Well done.
I guess I forgot the sarcasm thingy.
Please note that in that sentence, I said nothing about nuclear weapons.
Well I replied to your post which was in reply to Trident and Mercurius. I was under the impression you three were discussing whether it’s kosher to claim there’re nuclear weapons in Israel.
I don’t understand the game you’re playing in this thread, so I’ll have to bow out.
-double post-