You are quite generous in your willingness to give Vanunu credit for one thing but not for another. He seems quite confident in speaking about political/ideological matters, yet you deny him that credibility. What makes you think he lacks credentials in those areas as well?
I think this topic once again is a window into posters’ souls. The attitudes and language on display say far more about how individuals feel about Israel than anything else. It really doesn’t matter what the subject is, there is a group of folks who get all slathered up just at the mention of the Zionist entity.
What, claiming Israel has nuclear weapons makes people anti-Zionist?
Robert Gates & Jimmy Carter? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,358152,00.html
U.S. officials have generally avoided the issue of Israel’s nuclear status, although during a 2006 Senate confirmation hearing Secretary of Defense Robert Gates confirmed that Israel was a nuclear power.
Or this US site referring to declassified US government reports? http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
What about actual Israeli journalists? http://www.michaelkarpin.com/Documentaries/Doc1/Doc1_Iframe.html
Israeli literature on the subject usually indicates that the US foresaw today’s situation, (another country in the region trying to get the bomb in reaction to Israel having it) and tried to stop Israel from developing nuclear weapons.
In that case, Israel’s continued existence would have been safeguarded by US military power rather than nuclear weapons.
A common claim is that they got the technology from France (pre-67), then the UK, or France before and after 67. (Like with the Mirages arriving in boxes after the embargo.)
Swerve, what kind of magazine is that? Something like Popular Mechanics?
I see now that my post was rude, I apologize for that.
Now since I (and others) claim that quote is entirely made-up, I naturally don’t have a source for it.
Patton’s diaries were arranged and published in the 90’s, I don’t have that book, but I’ve never any seen the “division” quote being referred to his diaries.
Same for quotes such as “Give me an army of West Point graduates, I’ll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies and I’ll win a war!”
As for Schlesinger on Fox News? If Patton’s quote is mis-attributed, it doesn’t really matter who made it up. For what it’s worth, I got the name from http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_S._Patton#Misattributed which of course isn’t a 100% legit source. (Of course, neither is word-of-forum.)
Again I’m sorry for coming off as brusque over a very minor matter.
“Report”? Fox Three is an advertisement.
Gen George Patton “I would rather a German division in front of me than a French one behind”.
That quote is well known to be mis-attributed. It originates from some Fox News panel. In reality, Patton and Leclerc (under Patton’s command) had a friendly relationship.
Please check your sources before you attribute quotes to prominent historical figures!
True. Dornier also had this conventional design at the time:
Everyone from Ron Paul to Jimmy Carter to Israeli journalists agree Israel has nuclear weapons…
The following from an Israeli scholar working in the US;
Cohen focuses on a two-decade period from about 1950 until 1970, during which David Ben-Gurion’s vision of making Israel a nuclear-weapon state was realized. <>… from the founding of the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission in 1952, to the alliance with France that gave Israel the sophisticated technology it needed, to the failure of American intelligence to identify the Dimona Project for what it was, to the negotiations between President Nixon and Prime Minister Meir that led to the current policy of secrecy.
http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Bomb-Avner-Cohen/dp/0231104820/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1331038077&sr=8-8
This bargain has a name: in Hebrew, it is called amimut, or opacity. By adhering to the bargain, which was born in a secret deal between Richard Nixon and Golda Meir, Israel has created a code of nuclear conduct that encompasses both governmental policy and societal behavior.
<>… Most ironic, he believes Iran is imitating Israeli amimut. .
Dornier had much more advanced designs on the drawing board than that!
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1467.0
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=35568
Being able to reach Mach 2 without afterburners means this could have been a true supercruiser.
It does sound optimistic… But using those engines, the Israeli Phantom 2000 is said to have gone over mach 1 without using the afterburner.
http://www.f-4.nl/f4_35.html
Other articles say the engines were non-afterburning PW1120. (The Lavi/Super Phantom engines.) N&D claimed the design would be capable of mach 2.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/archive/index.php?t-49792.html
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=30788
BTW I’m not sure about the US okay’ing the sale of a Northrop-Dornier design with cutting-edge PW engines to India in the 80’s. Dornier probably offered one of their own designs.
Unlike Western designs which are almost invariably deployed in multiples of 8 or at least 4, this one does seem to be fully scalable (12 in 3 groups of four on Soobrazitelny, but 6 groups of four here plus 2 groups of two).
I always found it remarkable that the Dutch LCF loses an entire cluster of 8 VLS because of the small Goalkeeper mount below the bridge.
(just a re-post of Tango III)
As you say: Garbage in, garbage out. In all the cases here. Norwegians having Bache-Gabrielsen-induced phantasies
Не , Московская. 😀
of attacking Murmansk? Why even hold a competition? If for political and industrial reasons they want the F-35 just buy it.
Forget about the Barents and Arctic. Norwegian state oil are partnered with Gazprom in developing a huge gas field north of Murmansk. http://shtokman.ru/
The only military reason for Norway to buy F-35 is
so they can plug a fighter detachment into the US warmachine.
Same reason for the AEGIS-light frigates.
however if it is armor, that’s a different story. Morozov seems to have better success than their other Ukrainian counterparts, and actually succeeds in exports. You could argue that their counterparts to Russian armor are just as good, and maybe even better (waiting for your rebuttal here).
T-90 vs T-84
BTR-90 vs BTR-4
etc.
There’s something in the water; Morozov are located in Kharkov…
Google translate actually produces a surprisingly coherent translation.