The weekly airshow at CAC is on again !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E-zL42UKrnI

Nice, they’re putting some Gs on it.
4:43; I expect someone will measure its roll rate. 😀
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=E-zL42UKrnI#t=283s

Raytheon offered AMRAAM AIM-120C7, Sidewinder, Paveway IV, JSOW and HARM to IAF for Eurofighter bid. It isn’t clear if it was a standalone offer or officially a part of EF package.

Well, they’re not tied to EADS/EF. They are offering AMRAAM and JSOW for the Rafale as well.

People have been talking about the Gripen being attached to lots of US strings, but I suspect there has been a lot of misinformation like this here:
From the mmrca subsidies thread, a discussion on the Gripen radar.

Oh I thought it was an evolution of the APG65. My bad.

When the Rafale crew imagines this kind of US content on the Gripen, it’s not strange that people cry wolf on this issue.

The Horizon frigates have GE LM2500 turbines. How is that working out for the Marine Nationale in regards to US puppet strings… :rolleyes:
Those turbines are license produced in Italy, and the US will not tell the Italian factory to cease delivery of spare parts for the Horizons!

…which is what the Gripen detractors have been claiming about the Gripen’s F404 (license produced in Sweden). Take the “Gripen is 50% US content” claims. What does that make the Horizon? “35% US content?” How many % is your propulsion plant worth?

As for weaponry. Weapons integration costs tend to be wildly overestimated here. There are photos of Iraqi F1EQ with Kh-29L, MiG-23 with Exocet, IRIAF F-14 with Hawk missiles…

AMRAAM. You know the Gripen is the principal test aircraft for the Meteor. Meteor is ready to be ordered right now.
IRIS-T, KEPD 350, German. (MICA-IR, Scalp, to compare to the common Rafale loadouts.)
RBS-15, Swedish. (Exocet.)
LITENING, Israeli. For recce pods, you can get a Swedish one, or the Thales DJRP. (DAMOCLES, Reco NG).
Which leaves precision bombs… if you want to pay for a 350k € AASM or SPICE rather than a 20k $ GBU-12 or 20-40k $ JDAM, they can be integrated on a Gripen.

…And what’s left? Components like the ring laser gyro from Honeywell? You can get a 5x more expensive unit from Safran if the customer wants. RUAG is going to be involved the NG upgrade process, so they can change these kinds of components if they want.

Lol I was going to say the same 😀 !

Classy.

Btw Portugal has more fighters per capita than France… don’t be so smug.

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KEPD 350 is 1400kg. If station 3 really is just strong enough for 1400kg, well, you don’t have to fill the 1700l tanks to 100%. 😀

Madrat, did you make that graphic? Nice work!

Nice. Did people know about those sawtooth details inside the intakes already, or is that new information?

The delays with Rafale and Typhoon (and F-22, Su-34, etc.) were more to do with post-Cold War budgeting than anything else. No excuses for F-35 there which has been developed in a rather more generous budgetary environment than that in which it was (mis)conceived.

Super Hornet was delivered on time and on budget.

What issues did Gripen have?

It was on time and on budget as others have said. Project contract signed in 82, first flight 88, first production airframes delivered in 93, squadron service in 96.

Besides which the Gripen isn’t a very good example anyway when I think about it as it didn’t exactly push any boundries as the others mentioned did.
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The Typhoon is a cracking example of this, a jet that years after its entered service is still not finished. Gripen is another as is the Rafale.

Unstable delta canard, how was that not pushing the boundaries in the 80’s?
Gripen was operational with Mavericks and anti-ship missiles before the Typhoon entered service… can’t compare it to the Typhoon there. Rafale has had a complete weapons fit for a good while now, too.