In soil conditions with moderate moisture present, a wooden coffin might be expected to lose its integrity within perhaps 3-4 decades.
These crates have been down for over 6 decades, so may be no more than pulpy splinters, thus leaving the airframes somewhat exposed and vulnerable.
Still, we’re all just guessing here.
Defender is operated by the British Army.
I may be confusing my Defenders with my Islanders.
The Burma airframes may have gone into the crates in mint condition but they won’t come out that way. How much is a full set of 1:1 scale Mk XIV templates plus Griffon, plus data plate worth? £100,000 perhaps.
The value of un-restored Griffon powered Spits may take a dip although condition will play a big part in their value.…………………………
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…but as I can’t afford one, what does it matter?
But, but, but…..the Daily Mail says they will be worth £2 million EACH ! :confused:
Best not to shout about now having six flying Spits.
Some bean-counter will notice and decree two is quite sufficient 🙁
The Spit is one of the more numerous types in the RAF, with more flying examples than ,say, the Defender or the Sentinal R1.
There seems to be a great gravitational pull to the figure ’50’. I remember the FlyPast mag listing perhaps 15 years ago, and 50 was the number back then as well.
Since then, there have been numerous ‘debutantes’, though sadly quite a few losses . Have AR501 and G-AIDN been included as flyers?
One of the Beech pilots was concerned that the formation was too unstable, and becoming dangerous.
If you are unhappy, the only thing to do is bug out.
Also, there was a stray Yak 52, hanging around, whose position and intentions were uncertain.
Ah yes, that was in the shortest air/air photo shoot I have done.
After about 45 seconds, someone threw their teddies out of the pram!
Game on 😉
Digging starts in ten days.
Who said the Vulcan would never fly again …..?
Who said the P-40 was a model…….?
YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation enthusiast to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.
Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the aircraft after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good condition, since they were reportedly packed in crates and hidden by British forces to keep them out of the hands of invading Japanese.
The British Embassy said Wednesday that the agreement was reached after discussions between President Thein Sein and British Prime Minister David Cameron during his visit to Burma earlier this year.
The excavation of the rare planes is slated to begin by the end of October.
The Myanma Ahlin daily reported that the excavation agreement was signed Tuesday by Director General of Civil Aviation Tin Naing Tun, Cundall on behalf of his British company DJC, and Htoo Htoo, managing director of Cundall’s Burma partner, the Shwe Taung Paw company.
‘We estimate that there are at least 60 Spitfires buried and they are in good condition.’
– Htoo Htoo, managing director of recovery company Shwe Taung Paw
“It took 16 years for Mr. David Cundall to locate the planes buried in crates. We estimate that there are at least 60 Spitfires buried and they are in good condition,” Htoo Htoo Zaw said.
“This will be the largest number of Spitfires in the world,” he said. “We want to let people see those historic fighters, and the excavation of these fighter planes will further strengthen relations between Burma and Britain.”
The trouble with Tiger Moths is that they are permanently trying to have an accident, by wanting to go sideways, having lousy ailerons, a high centre of gravity, no brakes, poor crosswind cababilty and a fairly hostile pilot environment, ie very noisy and windy, and often cold. Usually they crumple up nicely, and protect their occupants.
In the 50’s they were a poor mans aeroplane, for people who could not afford to fly ‘modern’ Austers! Now, spares are scarce and a rebuilt engine might be around £20K .
Pay commercial rates, and a rebuild will usually be more than the aeroplane will sell for. As a type, it features pretty frequently in the accident reports, so small wonder that insurance rates are heading north.
All sounds pretty un-appealling, but still…… on the right day, over the rolling countryside, in the summer sunshine, looking through the wings and the wires,
there is something about a Tiger.
Still, I like traction engines too, and wouldn’t want to own one of them either !
Very speedy report out .
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/DH82A%20Tiger%20Moth%20G-AHLT%2010-12.pdf
”The pilot walked it twice on the
morning of the accident and was aware that it was a
difficult landing site, approximately 200 yards (183 m)
long, of which about 170 yards (155 m) was useable.
The field sloped steeply upwards for its first half and
less steeply for the second half. The pilot had measured
the Tiger Moth’s nil-wind landing roll on a flat grass
surface as 120 yards (110 m)”
A ‘challenging’ site, to say the least !
NOTE There are three Tiger Moth accidents in this bulletin , all resulting from failed overshoot attempts.
I think because the UK organisation was working on behalf on the IAF, on hopefully the first of a number of exciting projects, they would naturally be keen that all parties be happy with how things went.
It is obvious that there could be a number of reasons why publicity of the restoration was kept low-key, one of which could quite reasonably be to avoid spoiling the news value of the first public appearance.
Quite a number of forum contributors saw this project at various stages, but if the client says ‘keep it quiet’ that is what you do 😉
I bet that pic was taken at Old Warden in 1972, where it performed in public.
See link for shot with camera extended.
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