I always thought that the belly-landing scene was borrowed from ‘Twelve O’clock High’.
WL must have been just about the last aviaition ‘epic’ to be shot in black/white, possibly so as to be able to use b/w footage from other productions.
Shirley-Anne Field was rather gorgeous in this.
As more details of the incident are now in the public domain, it seems to be reasonable to mention that that Alan Walker was flying the T-33.
Alan needs no introduction to many members here, and indeed is a contributor himself.
‘It’s the soffits Captain ! They can’ne take it!!! ‘
That’s roof abuse-No debate.
I willingly withold any judgement until I see the finished article.
With the combined input of our (forum) top men, I expect it will be in a class of its own!
For myself, I am off to get a life, as instructed!
He will be down before the Zep!
Just noticed he is flying with the mags off.
Get me ‘Continuity’!.. You’re fired!
This will be, I think, another of those clips of film which look artificial and fake, yet until you think about it it is not obvious why.
This cameo is LR flying his BE2, stalking and downing SL-11, It is meant to be an aerial shot, but the budget does not run to this. Fair enough.
But it would be more realistic to film it in the manner of an aerial shot, ie with a camera mounted in the aeroplane, shooting backward, as in Hells Angels and most subsequent flying films. If the tail of the aeroplane was cocked in the air, no background would be visible, and you could blow some smoke around for movement.
The other way an aerial sequence could be shot is air-to-air, from a formating aeroplane, which will introduce some movement and realism-again this could be replicated on the ground. If you were creative enough to mount the camera on a boom you could introduce some realistic ‘rise and fall’ which formating aeroplanes demonstrate.
The one angle you will NOT get in a ‘flying shot’ is a rock-steady portrait of the pilot taken from three feet away, aft of the wing, but ,hey , that is exactly what they have done.
A trawl of various on-line sources reveals more information, such as the fact that a following F86 ‘had to avoid the fireball’ . The veracity of these accounts will be confirmed (or not) at a later time, but what seems clear is that the crew had a quite ASTONISHING escape, to emerge unscathed from an utterly wrecked, dismembered and burning aircraft.
As for the aeroplane, well, sad but in relative terms not that important. The T33, whilst enjojed by many, is not a rare airframe, and thankfully can be replaced if a willingness remains to do so.This fact really overshadows the huffing and puffing that the incident has generated
It is quite amusing to see other on-line boards whose members affect ( and state) a superior indifference to the content of the Key forums, but have wasted no time in checking out the threads here. All the more reason for us to collectively ensure that what we contribute stands up to scrutiny in terms of both accuracy and courtesy.
I, for one, am uncomfortable with being told what I will or will not think, or the manner in which I choose to express my thoughts.
There seems to be a self-rightous instinct amongst some parties to be the first to condemn ‘speculation’ even before any has occured, because of some ‘received wisdom’ that it is very ‘correct’ to do so. Furthermore, we would be deluding ourselves to believe that anybody gives a tinker’s cuss what opinions are expressed here.
I will guarantee that the chatter at Duxford today will be dominated by today’s incident, and the possible causes thereof….ie speculation. It is human instinct, you cannot stifle it, and it is in appropriate to do so in such a heavy-handed and confrontational style.
It is better by far to give contributors enough credit to make up their own minds how they will respond to this, or other events, especially as this mishap has had, at least in human terms, a fortunate outcome.
It is only a rumour, but I did hear there was a snake on the plane.
Did they find any shrapnel?
Very best wishes for a speedy recovery.
I wonder if the front cockpit is moved forward (48 inches – one/one scale) on the models. My own conversion involved the Airfix MkV, a hacksaw, and a spare canopy crammed on the back. No mess, no fuss, no accuracy!
Sorry- No jokes allowed.
HEALTH & SAFETY!
Hi Flying OKo,
Welcome aboard- You will find a wealth of Spitfire info here, and if you fancy a never-ending, circular discussion, you need only mention Vulcans! Any historic news/photos is always well received.
On the subject of diecasts, my favourite Corgi is still the MATS Lockheed Constellation- just beautiful.
There WAS a Meteor flying on Wednesday at 12.00 hrs, when it flew paralell to the M40 for a mile or so as it did a circuit of Chalgrove (Martin Baker test site).
Regrettably, the events Manager at Woburn has elected to disregard the input and advice from various directions and so the £15 admission (per person) charge still stands.
There will be a height judging contest, and flower bombing in lieu of the traditional flying demonstrations. Hard to see how this will constitute any sort of value for money, but time will tell.
Anyway, the intention is to pitch the event more to attract the family-outing market than aviation enthusiasts.
Across the whole range of preserved WW2 era warbirds, few types have had such a troubled history of operation as the HA 1112, apart from the Bf/Me 109, from which it was derived.
There MAY be one or two which have not met with some misfortune, but off the top of my head, I cannot think of any. Landing incidents have featured highly, as they did during wartime operation, when allegedly more 109’s were lost in such a manner, than on operations.