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    David Ogilvy lives in Bristol now. I will see what I can do.

    In Amersham, I recently chatted to a Hampden pilot ( then Lancs, then BEA ) There are not many of those fellows left now.

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #780205
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    Great find ! How has that been up for nearly three years and had just 105 views?

    It seems to have been a very competent operation, not a cutting torch in sight ! Interesting that they chose to work at night, to avoid the searing heat I suppose. These are the Kennet crew, presumably.

    Amazing rich colours still in the roundel under the wing, which never saw the sun.. Oh well…………………………………

    in reply to: Purchasing and running costs of a Tiger Moth? #780855
    Propstrike
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    As you do not have a licence at present, consider a PPL on Super Cubs ( various places offer this) as it will give you a better grounding for tail-skid aircraft.

    If funding is a snag ( when isn’t it ) consider glider training as a good basic grounding. The Upward Bound trust is set up to help young people.
    http://www.ubt.org.uk/#

    in reply to: Purchasing and running costs of a Tiger Moth? #780859
    Propstrike
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    £40 K for a tired but serviceable one, up to £75K for a good one with new fabric and a low hours engine. Re-fabricing could be heading for £20K , a new engine rather more.

    Hourly rate depends on usage, but probably £150 an hour upwards. Some shares are available here and there, and probably are an easier way into Moth ownership.

    They are very different to more modern types, and rather easy to bend (or worse) and are over represented in the accident stats. Avoid hard runways and crosswinds. Good fun though, if you have the right stuff.

    DH Moth Club will have chapter and verse, and will welcome serious enquiries, as the Moth scene needs new enthusiasts ( preferably under pensionable age ) .

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #782210
    Propstrike
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    From the perspective of this forum, the outcome is disappointing, and a very low-key conclusion to such an exciting and unusual discovery.

    There is a great temptation, almost an impulse, to identify the ‘bad guys’ whose greed or incompetence brought about this unhappy ending. But perhaps in reality, no one person or body actually had the influence or means to bring about conclusion which we would have deemed satisfactory;-

    Not the RAF Museum, who knowingly took a chance, to at least save an historic artifact, but were ultimately rebuffed by the Egyptian authorities. Nor even Kennet Aviation, who seemingly achieved all that their contract required them to do, and duly received the payment that underpinned the deal.

    Nor can one really blame the the decision makers at the Egyptian museum, at a time of political turmoil, when staff may well have been replaced or moved on, rendering obsolete any commitments or assurances which initially steered the whole process 6 years ago.

    Finally, one cannot really blame the technicians or engineers or even volunteers who undertook the restorative process, following the instructions of management, though with skill, knowledge and probably funding far below what would be available in the UK. They did what was asked of them, within the limits of their resources.

    Perhaps only political intervention at the highest level could have got the aeroplane to the UK, involving all sorts of behind-the -scenes negotiations, and realistically, that was very unlikely to ever happen.

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #782610
    Propstrike
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    Seems odd that the RAFM team, who presumably took a full photographic record of their activities, never placed any such images in the public domain despite huge public interest in the undertaking.

    Perhaps there was concern that interest would be aroused in Egypt, risking growing sentiment it should remain in the country.

    in reply to: Aerospace Bristol merged with Bristol Freighter for UK #782654
    Propstrike
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    Biffo is back ! Congrats to the team !!

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #783434
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    The Daily Mail is on the case now, with enough outrage for everyone !

    ”Egyptians give World War Two RAF Kittyhawk plane which crashed in the Sahara desert 70 years ago a ‘hideous’ shark’s teeth makeover making it look ‘like a badly-made AirFix model”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5231593/Egyptians-World-War-II-RAF-Kittyhawk-plane-makeover.html#ixzz53914dkOk
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #784686
    Propstrike
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    That is a pretty good summary.

    in reply to: Beaver Down In Australia 31/12/2017 #784735
    Propstrike
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    Another Beaver floatplane crashed in Fiji 6 just days ago. 6 rescued after it sank attempting to tale-off.

    http://fijisun.com.fj/2017/12/25/seaplane-sinks-during-take-off-attempt/

    in reply to: Beaver Down In Australia 31/12/2017 #784985
    Propstrike
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    Terrible news.

    An entire family living not far from me were all lost in 2015 in a stall / spin Beaver floatplane accident.

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #785171
    Propstrike
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    Despite our current distractions, we will remember them……

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #785233
    Propstrike
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    Detective, finding some glimmer of hope is commendable , but I think this particular ship has sailed.

    Is anyone still actively investigating Flt Sgt Copping , after five years? Given the way things have panned out, such a respectful and committed endeavour would be very surprising. We know roughly how and where he met his fate, and that may be all we ever know.

    For many people, a replica diorama would be of little interest, as it is just that, a replica. The aeroplane was ( past tense) compelling because represented such a vivid and robust connection to WW2 , and the sacrifice of one man. Now that connection is irredeemably severed, and it can never be returned to what it was.

    Best leave it where it is now, as even in its new guise, it is at least displayed in the theatre where it operated, and the best place for a memorial to Flt Sgt Copping.

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #786192
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    What next ? Patch up ‘Lady be Good’ with some fibreglass, cover it in Home Depot gloss paint and park it next to the P-40 .

    in reply to: Flt Sgt Copping's P-40 From The Egyptian Desert #786205
    Propstrike
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    I can’t help but be reminded of Spitfire MV459 , which received some level of restoration before display in India.

    I wonder how it felt to be grinding all that 70 year old paint off the P-40……

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