The situation that arised was caused by a fast taxi . Its debatable what a taxi with 2300 rpm is going to achieve over ground running and a slow brake test.
As I said earlier you need to be able to handle what might happen -the Firefly is a powerful machine that needs careful handling – the safety record of the type
in private hands hasn’t been sparkling.

I cannot think of a type with a more gloomy record of operation as a warbird, perhaps a 100% casualty rate.

1977, a fatal loss in Lake Ontario, 1987 a terminal forced landing in Camden (Australia) , Duxford (2003) Gillespie (2012) gear collapse.

The Canadian Warplane Heritage IS a flyer, but that too had a major incident in 1992.

Doubt it was the first, and certainly wasn’t the last occasion where people died flying during filming.

I think it happened more than you might imagine. Did not Don Gentile crash his P51 showing off to the assembled press ?

There was also this very sad accident during a fly-by for the cameras, which I almost hesitate to post, but it is germane to the discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfuUvfxWrWM

The following were all lost.

623 Flight Lieutenant D.C. Dey (Pilot)
408149 Pilot Officer R.L. 5olomon
(wireless operator / air gunner)
407561 Pilot Officer.l. Norman
(wireless operator/ air gunnerJ
410093 5gt H.S.C. Richardson
(wire less operator/air gunner)
49-27 (Lead aircraft)
408110 Flying Officer R.5. Creen (Pilot
409118 Flying Off icerr4.F. Hoban (Navigator B)
4Oe077 Sgt E.W. Sweetman {WOAC)
409976 5et A.J. Bailey(WOAC)

http://lockoweb.com/first%20a%20series/aamb%20project/a9%20beaufort/2012-12-19/beaufort0030.PDF

Yes indeed, the ‘Breast Beating’ season has started early this year . Normally ‘cabin fever’ does not kick in until after Christmas :rolleyes:

Without a doubt, the Forum (collectively) is already suffering from SAD (Spitfire Affective Disorder)

”Symptoms of SAD may consist of difficulty logging on in the morning, morning sickness, tendency to oversleep and over-analyse , and a craving for discussion about Spitfires. Other symptoms include a lack of energy, difficulty concentrating on or completing arguments, withdrawal from friends, family, and social activities, abusing the moderators, and decreased sex drive.[not applicable ] All of this leads to depression, pessimistic feelings of hopelessness, obsession with ‘data plate’ restorations, and lack of pleasure which characterize a person suffering from this disorder. The only remedy is total withdrawal from all Spitfire-related activities, and seasonal relocation to an area where Spitfires are entirely absent, e.g Burma ”.

Anyone weary of introspection might enjoy some or all of the following winter pastimes-

Contemplation, scrutiny, brooding, meditation, soul-searching, egoism, introversion and reflection.

There is nothing at all wrong with the forum. Human nature, however, remains as fickle as ever..!

As I said debate and don’t take things personal.

I long ago concluded that the amiable Andy-In-Beds habitually wears overly tight underwear, which goes a long way to explain his vexed and pugilistic disposition :rolleyes:

But hey, its only the internet, and the people who do stuff will keep on doing stuff, and the people who go on about doing stuff will go on, and on, and on.

I reckon we are in pretty good shape.

Watch other films, they appear to get there very quickly and to be honest with the G forces imposed on impact, he would have been dead long before any fire took hold.

Well, you can make it appear as though grass is growing very quickly , depending how you edit the film.

In this instance you could edit out the two minutes before the ’emergency crew’ rocked up .

Maybe ( we can not know) he was already dead, maybe he was not, but probably best to check before you start the cremation.

No? then why did you start this thread – on an open forum where people have a tendancy to express opinions?

I think the tone of the posting was in admiration and enjoyment of some some ultra-precise and spectacular flying.

I will nudge it back in that direction, and just add that whilst I would not wish him to do this in the Mosquito (as if ) I think the Tiger is sufficiently numerous that the aviation heritage of the world is not really under threat.

Forum members might like to spend 45 minutes listening to Squadron Leader Iveson on Desert Island Discs, here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/8701cbc0

Propstrike, may I use your picture on my Facebook page?

You are very welcome. Thanks for asking.

It works quite well in B/W , I think.