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  • in reply to: Super Hornet — will it become an export success? #2444581
    pfcem
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    It costs half as much and it is much more versatile that’s how.

    No, the procurement cost difference is insignificant (operational cost is a bit though) and unless Australia gets an operational carrier, there is nothing that the F/A-18E/F can do that the F-15E can not do as well or better…

    in reply to: Sentor Inoye wants to sell export F-22 to Japan #2444586
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    The JASDF may field the F-35 in the future, but as was mentioned earlier it won’t be available to be delivered in time to replace the F-4EJs. Japan has requested information on the F-35, but I don’t think it has shown a real interest in it for the scheduled replacement in question. In that respect the Typhoon has received more attention after the Raptor.

    If the F-X project moves ahead in 2010 or 2011, assuming the F-22 isn’t made available, and I had to put money on it, I’d go with the Typhoon winning.

    F-X program has been delayed at least a year…

    http://www.air-attack.com/news/article/2205/Japans-F-X-delay-could-open-door-for-Lockheed.html
    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/JAPAN060909.xml&headline=Japan%20Likely%20To%20Delay%20F-X%20Order&channel=defense

    …and Japan is relaxing its ban on arms exports.

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/JAPAN052609.xml

    Both of which greatly increase the probability of Japan selecting the F-35 for F-X.

    in reply to: Could/Would GE/RR self-fund the F136? #2444644
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    IIRC McDonnell and GD were in over their heads in the stealth dept and costs rocketed as a result.

    The primary problem was that in order to obtain the required level of stealth heavy thick composites were required, making it impossible to meet weight & flight performance requirements.

    This is still a bit of a problem today (& why the F-22 & F-35 are ‘heavy’) but not nearly as much. If the A-12 program were to be restarted today, it could be done.

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    And how is the end result different than what I said in the initial post? The USN has the modified Hornet and no A-12 or NATF.

    The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is not the Hornet 2000.

    While the Hornet 2000 was sold as an interim aircraft until the A-12 & NATF entered service, the Hornet 2000 program did not even get as far as the A-12 &/or NATF (the Hornet 2000 program was dead even before the A-12 &/or NATF were).

    After the A-12 & NATF were cancelled, the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet (not the Hornet 2000 but based on one of the concepts from that earlier program) was sold as a low cost/risk replacement for the A-12. The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet was not sold as & is not an interim to/for anything.

    in reply to: Super Hornet — will it become an export success? #2444647
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    i see, anyone selecting the SH obviously must have been fooled

    No.

    absolutely zero chance it was the best fit for their situation

    Seriously, how could the F/A-18E/F be a better “stop gap” to replace the F-111 than the F-15E…

    No saying that there are not valid reasons for choosing the F/A-18E/F over the F-15E. But if your claimed requirement is to replace the F-111…

    in reply to: Super Hornet — will it become an export success? #2444824
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    Boeing will bid the aircract they can best compete with , and as of now the market economics , performance nad COST of the F-18E/F program is far more competitive then that of the F-15E , even in australia boeing came out with the F-18E/F and not the F-15E , there is a reason behind this !!

    Not true. The difference in procurement cost between the F-15E & the F/A-18 E/F is insignificant. The F/A-18E/F is less expensive to operate & maintain but the F-15E is much more capable.

    The main reason that Australie chose the F/A-18E/F over the F-15E is that someone was fooled into believing that the F/A-18E/F was similar enough to the F/A-18A-D that there would be significant cost savings due to the commonality.

    in reply to: Gripen NG beats SU-35 in a2a #2444886
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    That is not consistent with LM experts take on it:

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2438829/Aerospace-Power-Journal—Summer-2002

    With all due respect to whom ever made that statement it is factually incorrect. The RCS of the aircraft does not change. What does happen is with the aircraft ‘facing’ a different direction, a different aspect of its RCS is presented to threat radars. The F-35 has ‘all aspect stealth’ meaning that it is stealthy from more or less all directions (as I said it does have a number of small aspect ‘spikes’ but unless one of said ‘spikes’ are pointed directly at a threat radar it will not be what the threat radar sees).

    So for example as the F-35 turns, one of the ‘100 times RCS spikes’ may momentarily pass within the detection range/direction of a threat radar (need to think three dimensionally here so even if pointed in the correct horizontal direction the ‘spike’ may not be pointed in the correct verticle direction) but unless the pilot stops his turn at that very point & maintains that orientation towards the threat radar for any given amount of time, the ‘spike’ would be only momentary. As the F-35 continues to turn the ‘spike’ is turned away from the threat radar & ‘lost’ as the threat radar is presented with a much lower RCS aspect of the F-35.

    As I said, I was going a bit overboard but what I posted is more accurate.

    in reply to: Could/Would GE/RR self-fund the F136? #2444898
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    The Hornet 2000 was sold as an interim aircraft until the A-12 and NATF were in service. And what does the USN have now? One of the Category III Hornet 2000 concepts and no A-12 or NATF. Seems pretty cut and dried to me. 😉

    Yes the Hornet 2000 was sold as an interim aircraft until the A-12 & NATF but did not even get as far as the A-12 &/or NAFT.

    The Hornet 2000 was dead (even before the A-12 &/or NAFT) as nobody was interested in pursuing it, not the USN & not any of a number of potential export customers it was marketed to.

    Then the A-12 & NAFT were cancelled.

    Then the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet was born (based on one of the earlier Hornet 2000 concepts) as a low risk/cost A-6 replacement.

    in reply to: Gripen NG beats SU-35 in a2a #2445116
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    Yes i know IIR, but heat is heat and cold is cold, aspect will play a huge role in IR detection, just like aspect will play a huge role in radar detection.

    And yet stealth naysayers want people to believe that IRST is the counter to stealth…

    Remember just a simple maneuver can increase F-35 RCS 100 times ?,

    I am going to be a bit overboard on this but no a simple maneuver does not actually change the F-35s RCS to any significant degree. What it does do is change the orientation of the F-35’s RCS in reference to threat radars.

    It is not like the F-35 has this tiny RCS from near dead on front aspect & if it is pointing in any other direction its RCS is huge in comparison. Aside from a few degrees from dead on rear aspec, the F-35’s RCS is quite low in all directions with a number of small ‘spikes’ which the pilot (& the F-35) knows exactly where they are & can quite easily keep said spikes pointed away from threat radars.

    So as a F-35 maneuvers, a give threat radar may get a momentary ‘blip’ as one of the ‘spikes’ passes within its detection range/aspect but radars get momentary ‘blips’ from all kinds of things that are not aircraft…

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    Agreed, again.

    However, to presume the enemy RWR will simply “ignore” a signal (knowing stealth+LPI aircraft are in vicinity) is a presumption, which is similar to TWS example from my previous post. So, obviously the RWR has a physical capability of detecting emissions and it’s a matter of filtering and data-interpretation that needs to be solved in order to turn LPI to non-LPI.

    Cheers, Cola

    No, because that is what LPI is. It is making your radar’s signals not look like radar signals but rather just a part of the ‘noise’ that is normally present. Unless your ESM knows or is somehow able to decipher the pattern that the LPI emitter is using, the LPI signal “look” like ‘noise’ & is interpreted as such. If RWR/ESM did not filter out the ‘noise’ it would be costantly going off & thus become useless.

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    If we take his words for granted, then the all-singing all-dancing ALR-94 greatly lags behind TRUE detection of LPI capable-radars, even those with well-known characteristics, let alone something foreign. Assuming that in five-six years, every single major aircraft developer will have access to comparable/better technology, it raises a question – what is the ALR-94 good for?

    LOL

    pfcem
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    LOL, you said it Flex.

    F35 fanboys are jumping the conclusions indeed, but hey, this is a public forum.
    If they’d stick to the facts, F35 would be the shortest thread here. 😀

    Cheers, Cola

    Actually, if they’d stick to the facts (instead of making up their own or twisting/misrepresenting the facts) F-35 naysayers wouldn’t have much to talk about.

    Then threads like this would be what they were intended, a depository for the ever growing reports of the F-35 meeting or exceeding expectiations.

    Even their only remotely valid arguments of risks of delays & cost increases are disengenious as they are the norm of military programs & nothing new or unique to the F-35.

    in reply to: Norwegian Government select JSF #2450303
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    60% for the F-22 is real

    http://www.dodbuzz.com/2009/02/17/af-likely-to-get-60-more-f-22s-allies-out-of-luck/

    Note that “stealth issues” only added 10% to the total…

    pfcem
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    I personally would call it outright BS, purely due to lack of any better suitable designation. I place my estimate at $140mil a piece, time will tell how close I was..

    LOL.

    The last three lots of F-22s costed an average of ~$140 million.

    Now that may no be far off for the average LRIP F-35 cost for the US…but see below. 😉

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    I would call that an invitatio ad offerendum, not a legally binding proposal itself. I think it’d be a bit much to assume that with this quote the US government would cover all cost beyond this price point.

    According to Norwegian DoD this is not a binding quotation. It’s just an estimate. Meaning that the price can go up if the assumptions change.

    It was a signal to parner nations that they do not need to wait for full rate production to get full rate production pricing. The DOD will sell them their LRIP F-35As at the expected full rate production price rather than the much higher LRIP cost the US will be paying…

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon news II #2450305
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    IMO they all also remind somewhat of F-117, i wonder how much maintenance they will need, to my knowledge F-117 didn’t need the kind of nursing today’s “stealth a/c” need.

    Quite the opposite.

    The F-22 & even more so the F-35 don’t/won’t need the kind of nursing the F-117 & B-2 needed/needs.

    in reply to: Does latest Su-35 with TVC but no canard proves… #2450312
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    Look you imbecile.
    Stop polluting this forum with your cretin observations and thoughts.

    As I said, download the .PDF, read it and than make an intelligent comment, tough I doubt that’s possible. The document has been verified by NASA, so that should be enough for you, right?

    Cheers, Cola

    LOL.

    I didn’t say “classic elevator” + canard + TVC wasn’t better…

    in reply to: Could/Would GE/RR self-fund the F136? #2450719
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    pfcem

    No, I said that the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet & the Hornet 2000 are not the same. I never said that the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet was not developed from the Hornet 2000 program, quite the opposite in fact.

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    Stop being so pedantic about it. The list you gave isn’t really relevant anyway and the examples have very little in common with each other. (One compares a study to a production aircraft, another a prototype USAF aircraft to a production naval aircraft, and so forth.)

    No the list I gave is absolutely relevant as demostrating that just as the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is not the Hornet 2000 but a later program, several other modern fighters have come about from different earlier programs as well – it is nothing unique to the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.

    The fact remains that the upgraded Hornet (whatever label you want to stick on it) was sold as an interim aircraft and now the navy is stuck with it.

    No the fact remains that the 80’s Hornet 2000 was sold as an interim aircraft until the NATF & A-12 were opperational but did not even get as far as the NATF &/or A-12 while the 90’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet was/is in no way an interim but rather a low risk/cost replacement for the A-6 since the A-12 was cancelled.

    in reply to: Could/Would GE/RR self-fund the F136? #2450875
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    I’ll take Boeing’s word over yours. Thanks anyway though. :rolleyes:

    Boeing doesn’t say that the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is the Hornet 2000

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    Yes, but it was definitely the starting point of the Super Hornet.

    Thats right. The starting point. Not the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.

    I gave a whole list of examples of other programs that were “the starting point” for a number of different aircraft. Just like with the F/A-18E/F, the aircraft that is/was the result is not the same aircraft as the earlier programs.

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