The USAF acquired some MiG-23S (Flogger-E) examples from Egypt, in addition to the BN. All of the export grade stuff was taken into account given the USAF/USN’s overall opinion of the aircraft. When placed against the F-15 or F-14, the U.S. pilots were not worried, at all…
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What is so idiotic about it? The overall consensus was negative toward the MiG-23. A more advanced version might have changed perception, but I doubt it would sway a whole opinion. The pilots praised it’s acceleration, and the fact it had a steerable nose wheel over the free-wheeling types in the MiG-17/21. I think the MiG-23 may have had a part to play in the deactivation of the Red Eagles. That and of course, money being the reasons. I am also of the opinion a similar unit exists, flying the MiG-29 and Su-27 for the U.S. Air Forces.
Read Red Eagles by Steve Davies and you will learn a lot about Russian aircraft and why the Mig-21 was so well liked.
I was thinking about the exact same book and the quote from a USAF pilot stating that he hoped the USSR/Warsaw Pact would universally adopt the MiG-23. In that case, they would just kill themselves while flying it. USAF/USN pilots *liked* the MiG-21 enough, but when it came to the MiG-23, they hated the type.
Really? Oh brother…
Wonder if Iran would be interested???
Why would they be interested? They have their own stealth fighter in development… :highly_amused:
The aircraft would look really slick in a gloss black c/s.
To stay serious the delays in the F-35 development forced a capability gap in the deterence capability of the US forces and we will learn afterwards it had an impact or not. What is known for sure it caused some extra cost in billions because it forced the US forces and the foreign customer to keep its F-15A/B/C/D forces much longer in service with some extra money in need to do so.
That actually seems to support my claim, seriously.
The kfir and its derivatives seemed to have the longest legs in recent upgrade cycles. This may be more out of a political scheme than a monetary or tactical plan. I would have been nice to see the Viggen catch on outside of Sweden.
I can see Finland doing this over buying another fighter (most likely the Gripen). European budgets are not there for fighter purchases in this decade. I also would not be surprised at all if the RCAF ditched the F-35 and went with the F/A-18E/F.
I think the F-15’s will undergo measure to keep them safe to fly for the foreseeable future, but it won’t be for long. There isn’t much sense in making and upgraded F-15, spending resources in that direction, when the F-35 is waiting in the wings. The USAF has pinned their future capabilities to the F-35. That is why the F-15’s, especially the E-models, are not going to be improved much beyond their current capabilities. Other nations can have their advanced F-15I/K/SA/SG’s while the USAF will adopt the F-35 and operate them alongside the fleet of F-22A’s.
I would go for the EPE engines and the CFT’s. The upgraded engines would be necessary to help compensate for the increased load the fuel would add. I really don’t see the benefit of stealth weapons pods. Would they make that much of a difference?
Better yet, report this site as an anti-CCP propaganda site to the CCP and you will never hear from zhengpao and his fellow Chinese nationalists again.
Got a URL for doing that?
The Russians never anticipated operating far from airfield support. The Soviet Union was huge with thousands of airfields all over the place. All MiGs could have probably used A2A refueling capability.
It could very well be the update to this forum’s CMS/Site is a security update, which brought along a new CSS layout.Security updates on web platforms are necessary and should not be avoided for sake of aesthetics.
But not when going 1350 kts at 40 000 ft ?
What air-to-air combat happened at that speed, back then? Average A2A engagements happened between 300-500 KIAS.