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March 15, 2002 at 12:36 pm in reply to: VC10 OR 707 #685875

Eiran
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RE: VC10 OR 707

Granted

But what is anything without circumstances?

It is true that due to passenger preference on trasatlantic routes in service with BOAC, the Super VC-10 was economically competitive with the 707. In fact the 707’s were used to take “spillage” from the frequently full VC-10 flights.

March 14, 2002 at 2:44 pm in reply to: VC10 OR 707 #686469

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RE: VC10 OR 707

I do agree that the decline of the British aeronautical industry is as much to do with the incompetence and strange desicion making rationale of the British government as the violent assertiveness of the American Government.

In repy to your “How about comparing like with like?” comment, take a quick peek at waht the discussion is about. Go on, just a little look?

And in airline service the VC-10 was economically competitive with the 707 due to it’s consistently higher load factors. And it has vastly superior performance.

And surely the VC-10 has to win on it’s sheer elegance.

March 12, 2002 at 11:33 am in reply to: VC10 OR 707 #687676

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RE: VC10 OR 707

The reason for poor sales performance had absolutely nothing to do with aircraft performance. The vc-10 was at least on par in terms of economics with the 707, mainly due to the fact that passengers preffered the vc-10 and it therefore had much higher load factors.
The agression of US government in eliminating competition for it’s domestic industry (as mentioned) was the overriding factor.
The US government also put paid to the concorde program, by effectively banning it from flying over land in the US.
Boeing was fortunate to have the most powerful marketing organisation behind it, and it still does.

March 1, 2002 at 12:49 pm in reply to: Future of 146/Avro RJ? #693936

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RE: Future of 146/Avro RJ?

http://www.keymags.co.uk/dcforum/DCForumID3/648.html

March 1, 2002 at 12:29 pm in reply to: Future of 146/Avro RJ? #693941

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RE: Future of 146/Avro RJ?

And so you should “go poke yourself youpainfully rational person.”
Besides your rationale seems to be somewhat flawed.
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February 19, 2002 at 11:48 am in reply to: Future of 146/Avro RJ? #696938

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RE: Future of 146/Avro RJ?

there was a discussion as to this a few months back. possible
reasons were given and everyone said nice things, not like
the prick who replied to your query with blasphemous remarks.

January 14, 2002 at 2:39 pm in reply to: Which Aircraft would be best for BEA? #704398

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RE: Which Aircraft would be best for BEA?

ATR’s are made in France and they keep crashing in icing conditions, I wouldn’t use one to replace a flightless chicken.

January 7, 2002 at 9:51 am in reply to: Avro Shutdown! #705445

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RE: Avro Shutdown!

The RJ is economically competitive in running costs, but it seems that the most airlines were not willing to pay the initial outlay, even for the better performance that it offered over the cheaper competitors. For the prices that the airlines were willing to pay BAE SYSTEMS would have incurred a ‘significant loss’ for each airplane that they produced.
Maybe overlooked is the recent entry into the recent rollout of the Airbus A318, which has simmilar capacity to the RJX100, is it coincidence that as one program gathers momentum, the other is cancelled?
Maybe.

December 17, 2001 at 2:26 pm in reply to: Avro Shutdown! #706816

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RE: Avro Shutdown!

Here here, I quite agree.:D

December 6, 2001 at 9:56 am in reply to: Avro Shutdown! #707671

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RE: WHY?!

Go poke yourself you painfully rational person.

December 4, 2001 at 12:41 pm in reply to: Avro Shutdown! #707698

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RE: WHY?!

I was talking to a senior manager from BAE SYSTEMS at the weekend, and apparently Sir Richard Evans was almost in tears at the due to the situation that had to be made.
The reason for cancellation was the cancellation of many orders due to market conditions, conditions in which the RJX could not compete with Bombardier and Emraer’s aircraft due to the subsidies received by them from their respective governments. BAE SYSTEMS has no such financial support, and the Brittish Government has no such attractive financial packages to offer prospective customers.
The outcome of such factors is nothing short of tragic, but, sadly, nothing much can be done about it. :'(

November 7, 2001 at 1:27 pm in reply to: Regional Airliners #709516

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RE: Regional Airliners

I quite agree, ’tis unquestionably the best aircraft, ever.

November 7, 2001 at 1:25 pm in reply to: Favourite & worst looking airliner of all time #709521

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RE: Favourite & worst looking airliner of all time

TRIDENT, yes. WHAT ELSE??????
well the VC10, Avro RJ and DHC Dash 7
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