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  • in reply to: Schelde Combatant 12717: Dutch Stealth Frigate Proposal #2090977
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    There is a Swedish enlarged version too called Visby Plus. I’ll send you a document about the current Visby and the Visby plus.

    in reply to: Merchant shipping #2039037
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    That is very believable.
    If you read the EU “white book” on transportation, you will also see that. In economic lessons we’ve seen that shipping in general can be an alternative, together with railway transport to the ever flexible (but now less flexible because of our road congestion) road transport. All together railway is used in the wrong way, with an average of 50km of distance, which is not what it was built for…
    They even intend to make sea highways under a project called Marco Polo, all together a piece of rubbish… How can you put more ships through the English Channel without having more collisions? In some areas this highway principle might work, but certainly not all over Europe, let alone the world…
    For UK, with water all around, I think it might indeed be a good alternative!

    One of the biggest problems of the ever growing ports is just that. They grow a lot and fast, they can receive those 6,000-12,000 TEU vessels, but then it ends, because you have to get rid of all those containers… And that’s where coastal feeders and inland navigation enters. Yet they are totally underdeveloped and cannot cope with the feed of containers to these large ports. We’re gonna get a headache over this in the future with these growing container ships and ports!

    in reply to: Schelde Combatant 12717: Dutch Stealth Frigate Proposal #2039040
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    Another new one…

    I used to have a picture of the yacht-type, but I don’t know where I’ve put it.

    I read the accompanying article of the posted drawing and it indeed was about integrated mast design, offering a 360° coverage for the antennae and radars inside and the possibility to mount them on top of each other (and hence avoid interference in an easier way). Otherwise it was just talking about the innovation of the Dutch shipbuilding industry and some projects they had going on. It was a summary of a speech given by K. Damen, the boss of Damen shipyards.

    in reply to: Schelde Combatant 12717: Dutch Stealth Frigate Proposal #2039141
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    I think I know which one you mean Wanshan. the small one had a Mk48 VLS, a Goalkeeper in the back and 2 quadruple Harpoon launchers. Many people complained about its “yacht-like appearance” and that it didn’t look like a warship anymore. I admit it did have a dingy in the back and the hull shape of a yacht. But all together I think it was an excellent ship!

    in reply to: Merchant shipping #2039241
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    Yes indeed, it was in an article, as mentioned it’s an article in my native language. I haven’t even yet had the time to fully read it, but from scan reading it, I noticed it was mainly about the integrated mast design. I’ll have a further look when time allows.

    Turbinia, lately there have been several articles showing that indeed there is a growing fear for over capacity in the container fleet. I’ll have a look and post some if I have the time. It might indeed collapse if you see what they are building and ordering nowadays. And the simple lack of crewing will soon be apparent too (it is already, but with these ships it’ll become even more important). The next in the E-series by Maersk has been named Estrelle Maersk now.

    in reply to: Schelde Combatant 12717: Dutch Stealth Frigate Proposal #2039245
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    I’ll have a look in the article to see what it tells. Wanshan, I’ll send you the article.

    in reply to: Merchant shipping #2039347
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    HHI buys into Chinese steelmaker
    Hyundai Heavy Industries, the world’s largest shipbuilder, has moved to secure a stable supply of steel by acquiring a
    20% stake in China Qinhuangdao Shouqin Metal Materials Co for $51.9 mln. The South Korean builder says it will buy
    300-500 th. metric tonnes of steel plate from the company next year. The steelmaker is scheduled to complete a steel
    plate production facility with an annual capacity of 1.5 mln. tonnes at the end of this year.

    From today’s newsletter, didn’t have anything extra except for these few lines regarding this.

    Mittal has recently bought Arcelor I think. There was some commotion about it with governments etc. but in the end I think the deal went through.

    in reply to: Merchant shipping #2039435
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    Hello Turbinia, here are some things (I hope, as last time it didn’t want to upload, so I’ll have to try via photobucket).

    Can you imagine this in bad weather (Emma Maersk of course):
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/Emmamaersk.jpg

    Here is the stuff I wanted to send you. I have them double the size in case you want it. Sorry for the flash, if you want it I can redo it without the flash (or try to do that at least), didn’t want to take it with me and scan.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/ultracon1.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/ultracon2.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/ultracon3.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/ultracon4.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/ultracon5.jpg

    And engines:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/ultraconprop1.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/ultraconprop2.jpg

    And here something I found while looking around, but didn’t really find the right topic to put it in.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/Severodvinsk/scheldecom.jpg
    The article accompanying it was in native language so that wouldn’t be of any use to you. Sorry about the bent nose, it was on the wrong side of the book 😉

    in reply to: Merchant shipping #2039624
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    MHI and Nippon Steel develop new
    steel for mega containerships
    Japan’s Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. (MHI) and Nippon Steel Corporation have jointly developed a technology to
    use higher tensile strength steel (HTSS) with yield stress of 47 kgf/mm2 for the longitudinal strength member of
    supersized containerships.
    Yield stress indicates the limit beyond which permanent deformation occurs. The longitudinal strength member is the
    most important part of a containership’s hull.
    New containerships are increasing in size and the steel plates used for them are also becoming thicker.
    However, says MHI, when “plates become thicker, toughness tends to decline. Use of the new HTSS, which has
    successfully achieved toughness in addition to increased strength and reduced thickness, will not only contribute to
    improvements in weight reduction and fuel efficiency, but also increase the reliability of the ship’s hull.”
    When toughness is high, the possibility of crack initiation will be reduced and resistance to crack propagation
    increases.
    The first containership to incorporate the new steel will be built at MHI’s Nagasaki Shipyard and Machinery Works
    while the HTSS steel plate will be produced at Nippon Steel’s Oita Works.
    MHI says the 47 kgf/mm2 HTSS is the world’s highest strength steel plate for the hulls of commercial ships. In addition
    to improved hull safety with higher toughness steel, the reduced volume of steel and resultant lighter ship weight will
    allow greater deadweight.
    Currently, the highest strength steel plate being used for commercial ships is 40 kgf/mm2 HTSS, introduced fifteen
    years ago.
    Nippon Steel has developed the new HTSS by applying its Thermo-Mechanical Control Process (TMCP) technology, a
    production process that concurrently enhances strength, toughness and weldability of steel through hot rolling and
    online water-cooling.
    The company has verified the outstanding safety of the steel by using a test facility with giant tensile capacity of 8,000
    tons.
    Nippon Kaiji Kyokai (Class NK) also participated in the development.
    MHI designed the hull structure, leveraging characteristics of the steel and realizing increased safety for the hull
    structure through optimization such as reduced plate thickness, and steel and welding arrangement.
    In general, steel weldability deteriorates in relation to increasing strength. One of the features of the new HTSS is
    claimed to be excellent weldability–equivalent to 40 kgf/mm2 HTSS.
    MHI has established the most suitable welding method for the new HTSS by conducting various welding tests,
    including two-electrode VEGA (Vibratory Electro Gas Arc) welding, jointly developed by MHI, Nippon Steel Corporation
    and Nippon Steel & Sumikin Welding Co., Ltd.
    “By applying this welding method,” says MHI, “it is evident that the resulting product is superior in strength, toughness
    and the quality of welded parts over existing HTSS.”

    With the introduction of large-size containerships that combine highly reliable 47 kgf/mm2 HTSS and MHI’s special
    design and construction methods, the company says it is responding to the increasing needs of customers for higher
    transportation efficiency and reduced environmental load through improved fuel efficiency and enhanced safety of
    ship’s hull.

    Hello Turbinia, might be something of interest to you. I’ll try to scan something for you about the design of such ships including computer generated test stuff on motion and strength of these giants. I have it available, but I’m not sure if I can scan it and throw it online (maybe send it to you personally), I’ll try to get it here anyway.

    in reply to: PLAN Thread (Pics, news, speculations…everything) – 2 #2040160
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    I’m not sure what problems you guys have with that propulsion… They most likely have their reasons to build it with that propulsion.
    Lawrence, I think it will end somewhere… They can’t keep building new DDG types you know! Although I do not exclude something new, a step beyond 52C getting rid of the round VLS’s and going for the regular rectangular ones.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2041270
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    you have put the full picture adress in there, including the “http://www. etc. .jpg” in there, then it should show up.

    Are you building a 1/200 Kirov class with Sovremenny parts??? How did you do that? Has little or nothing in common with it.
    If you wish I can send you HUGE 1/200 plans for Peter the Great. Including lines plan, transverse sections etc. Best technique is using those transverse sections, cut them from ply wood and then use Balsa planks to finish it off. One massive Balsa block can be used to make the bow too, after you finish it you can sand it off to the correct shape and cover it with car filler paste.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2041274
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    Oops, posted the wrong picture then. I’ll better go and change it…

    Unicorn, what plans does he use? I’m building one in 1/700 at the moment, but the technique I’m trying is not really working out well. I did build it based on my own drawn plans so maybe if I had better plans I could try in a larger scale and hence have more chances of succes.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2041369
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    It’s the Rosoboronexport promotion video, shot aboard Neustrashimiy.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2041514
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    Not sure on Snake’s ship, it made me think more about a Spruance when I first saw it. Its stern also seems to show a VDS or Towed Sonar (I wonder why they didn’t put an extre helo spot in there as they have done with Slava and Kashins and so create a larger hangar or accomodation). I do however agree that it is not a realistic design and compared to the Kashtan in front, this ship would be huge.

    As for Udaloy it is a great platform indeed and some upgrade, maybe with the 9M96E and Klub would indeed be needed. But what I meant in my defence of this ship is that it’s just a current need, probably not their ship for the future, but at this moment it suffices and still is an extremely useful ship in their current fleet.

    in reply to: Russian Navy : News & Discussion #2041551
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    Rastrub can be used against surface ships too, so it’s a multirole weapon.
    Can hardly call a harpoon multirole and compared to the Rastrub in anti-ship mode it doesn’t have that much advantages.
    Harpoons are just a self defence SSM, could hardly be called a true anti-ship capability.
    With a single helicopter and some torpedo tubes you aren’t going to get far against submarines, the only possible succes would be stumbling upon a lousy subcommander and kill his sub if you’re very lucky.
    These ships are true AAW vessels and are by no means called multi-role.
    A Sovremenny cannot do anything against submarines and as mentioned air defence and antiship roles are taken by different ships, Sovremennies are not necessary in the fleet. Dedicated anti-submarine ships are. If you’re not dedicated to the anti-submarine role, you make very little chance. Against missiles that is totally different. A Sovremenny can only engage 6 targets with 12 missiles, an Udaloy can take 8 with 16 missiles (at shorter range yes, but with a higher chance of succes after all), that is one of the reasons why the Russian Navy has opted to keep them instead of the Sovremennies.
    I do doubt the chances of a Rastrub against a surface target nowadays, but as mentioned they have other ships which are a lot more potent in that role (with expensive overkill missiles, but still capable of doing the job after all).

    And the Udaloy II design is indeed the best destroyer design they ever made, there was even some talking about continuing the second of the class, but they refrained somehow. An Udaloy can take care of itself against whatever threat there is, a Sovremenny cannot.

    Here is what you can do with a Stereguchiy if necessary (don’t know on what this idea is based though, could be from a wishful thinker too).

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