Re;- £785.00
they really got conned there didn’t they
buyer beware and all that
I think it speaks volumes about the mentality of some ‘Collectors’…. Let’s face it. A lot of this stuff is really just junk anyway.
More wood in them than you would think…..!
Yes, ‘in theory’, but if I’m not mistaken there are no original drawings. I wouldn’t quite characterise that as ‘nothing to stop…’ a ‘copy’ being made. (What is a ‘copy’..?).
The engines and airscrews are not an insurmountable hurdle either. However, these, and the spares for same had pretty-much dried-up ten to fifteen years ago. Since then, apart from the Q6, quite a number of Proctor projects have surfaced. You might need deep pockets or it’s pistols at dawn old chap….!
There is allways the chance that when done another could be built using her as a pattern, after all look at the DH88 Comets…
In theory yes… However, there is a quantum difference in the level of interest. Much as I’m looking forward to seeing the Q6 fly again, even most aviation enthusiasts will, sadly, not have heard of the Q6, whereas the Comet has, within the historic aviation mindset, a global presence. The Q6 was great in her day, and was as contemporary then as the Rapide was archaic, – and made much better use of the similar engines. Good luck to Rex, as he’s got a big job on his hands, but the end result will be an interesting and unique machine.
The Boost Gauge MkII seems to have been in use for both military and civil a/c during the mid to late ’30’s. From memory, they were normally set-up to read only to +/- 4 lbs, so useful for a wobbly prop, but pretty useless for any supercharged motors. Perhaps the panel was designed when the MkII was widely available, say ’36 – ’38…?
Bob,
Well, the housing certainly looks the same. Looking at the graphics on yours I’d place it 1934 – 37, although it was clearly using a much earlier platform, but perhaps adapted and recalibrated for a supercharged motor. Never seen either one of these however….!
S.
(Yawn.) – There must be a dearth of repeats on the TV.
Depends what you mean by ‘better’…….???
‘Better’…in what way…??? Were their designs better..? Mostly yes. The Germans had the only supersonic wind-tunnels in the world at that time……. Was their production more efficient..? Yes, absolutely. They could probably build several Fw190’s whilst we were piddling around with our pretty Spitfires.
Were they able to get what was needed, to the right place at the right time…? No. The Germans oversight of what was needed was abysmal. That can largely be put-down to inflexible pre-war attitudes and the concept that the Luftwaffe was a purely tactical arm of the Army – and the interference of a funny little bloke with a silly moustache. Good job too, or the war might have gone on for another few years – and involved nuclear weapons, and since the Jerries were the only people with a ballistic missile system, that could have been very nasty….. Think ‘Things To Come’, only with nukes.
@ Graham Boak;- ‘They had fuel injection but we had superior superchargers – and turbochargers if you include the US. Their engines were a third bigger to give the same power.’
Not wishing to be a pedant, but my understanding is that the Jerries used larger engines as they were using low-octane fuel made from coal for the most part, not really having any oil. They were however, using water-methanol injection and their Commandgerrat (Sp..?) engine management sytem was light years ahead of our fist-full of levers. HOTAS years before FADEC and HOTAS were dreampt-up.
At least you are free to choose whether or not to go and the tens of thousands who visit shows nationwide every year are clearly not troubled by it. I think you and others here are in a small minority whose opinion is unlikely to change the situation. So you’ll have to miss the shows or grin and bear it.:)
Whilst organisers have good attendance’s at airshows, I agree, it’s unlikely to change. However, this is a subject widely commented upon, so I doubt it’s just a ‘small minority’…
Maybe, rather than ‘not troubled by it’, many of those attending are ‘grinning and bearing it’. Not always one of Britons greatest traits. Let’s hope the message gets through.
Here we go again………
I’m 100% with ‘Mauld’ and the others on the subject of the PA ‘commentary’. I’ve expressed the exact same opinion before. I know a lot of folks who, like me stay away from shows again and again because of the intrusive commentary. I’d tend to stop short of blaming specific individuals, although some are clearly more pig-ignorant than others. The fact is, folks pay a lot of money to attend airshows. They not only wish to see the aircraft, they wish to HEAR them as well, not have the same old predictable diatribe blasted into their sylph-like lugholes… Frankly, many commentators seem to think that the show isn’t actually happening unless their jaw is flapping up and down…
Earlier last year I had to zip over to Duxford to meet a guy with some urgent documentation for an a/c. As it just so happened, several warbirds were up practicing, doing beat-ups. To be able to soak it up without the wretched PA blaring away was sheer bliss.
Come the Legends, I stumped-up for the enclosure. Whilst it was nice to rest my ageing bones, the PA was still omni-present. How many times are we exhorted to … “Just listen to that, blah, blah, blah…..’ which of course we can’t, because the PA is so loud and never shuts up…. So, this year I’ll pass on it again.
The Legends shows themselves are epic, there is no doubt about it. Hat’s off to everyone who busts a gut to make it the world-class event that it is. However, if you are lucky enough to get to the front of the hordes, then you are also likely to be close to the endless number of excessively-loud speakers. For sure, the PA has a safety-role to play, but most folks attending either know their stuff of are sufficiently literate to read a programme. A few words when there is no activity, – a well-timed snippet about a change in the display;- Fine. The rest of tripe I can happily do without. I’d hasten to add that I’m not actually singling-out Legends, – most shows seem to suffer this same malaise. I go to see and hear the a/c, not to listen to endless cliches.
Sometimes, – ‘less is more’….
I used to walk my dog there on occasions. As others have said, it wasn’t a great location. It was high, and being so close to the coast, could often be in low cloud. (Ironically, Exeter Airport, nearby, has one of the best Met records in the UK, but it’s also near sea-level.). Haldon was also quite small, and the contours and roads nearby precluded expansion. There are a few other long-forgotten strips between Exeter & Plymouth, dating back to the pre-war RAS days, mostly now disused. Flying also used to take place on the nearby Haldon/Exeter Racecourse.
Brighton? :confused:
Breighton…?
It’s true I think, as I’ve seen underwater photos, but it looked pretty broken-up…!