So true….!
🙂 Spitfire doing wonderful aeros for at least 25 mins over N/W Cambridge area just now 11-10 onwards.
Walking the dogs in beautiful weather not a sound of a commentator anywhere ,just the birds twittering and the sound of a Merlin being used WONDERFUL.
Dear airshow commentators please take note and SHUT UP.
I’ll second that. Over the years I have come to detest their inane & interminable dronings, usually punctuated by exclamations of ‘Just listen to that..!” whilst they drone-on, ensuring that no one can enjoy the sounds. All the information is in the friggin Programme if people want the griff……:rolleyes:
The Devils Child.
Using a Griffon in place of a Sabre has been mooted many times over the decades. Part of the problem is that, when folks are shelling-out that kind of dough, they want it right, as in – as perfect as possible. Much of the allure of the Typhoon/Tempest IS the nasty old fire-breathing monster under the cowlings….:diablo:
A Griffon-engined Typhoon/Tempest would be a gas, – but it wouldn’t have the resale value of one with the correct engine. However, as it’s probably about the only viable option, it may well come to pass when money isn’t so tight.
Kermit Weeks has a Tempest V airframe almost restored. It’s to go on static display, but has been done to airworthy standards with an eye to the future – he’s also got two Sabres. There are reckoned to be only ten Sabres left in the world, with two in private hands – Kermits… Given the difficulties with the Sabre – and all his other huge projects, it’ll be a miracle if it gets to fly, but if anyone can see it through, he’s The Man. 🙂
Horizon.
This AI is the earlier Mk1 type with the ‘skyview’. It’s been in for service and had some white paint gobbed on it, but you can still see some of the original gold foil. They were usually luminous too. They were of course also used in civil a/c pre-war from about 1936 onwards.
The Mk1A was this unit inverted, but the later devices used white paint for use with UV lights etc and the symbology was simplified too. Same basic unit however. I think the revised version started to come in around 1941.
Funny you should mention Faber…
Strangely, I was in a boozer last Saturday in Devonshire (The London Inn at Morchard Bishop.) and they have some fragments of a Spit’ that Faber shot down that day (I think the pilot was a Czech and got out OK.) in a case on the wall. Faber seems to have, in the heat of the moment, flown the reciprocal, and mistaken the Bristol Channel, for the English Channel. Having flown that route many times it’s feasable, especially in the heat of war. Many other pilots did this, quite easy when using some compasses, like our early aperiodic types.
Part of Pembrey was used for model flying, part for motor racing, and part was reactivated as an a/d some years ago. The Welsh Development Agency spent a mint, but when I used to use it, one didn’t normally see any other a/c at all…! Pity, as the runway was like a baby’s bum. 🙂 I don’t recall any of the original building being left, except fo one of those concrete domes the gunners used to use to practice.
Agreed. :rolleyes:
Seconded.
The author of the article is a PPL, low-time or not, and he can put the time in his logbook. Does that mean someone will let him jump into their Spit’ and fly it..? Of course not, but he has certainly ‘flown’ one, and it’s a bit meanspirited to suggest otherwise. Of course, any pilot, and a good many others besides would love to fly a Spit’, even if it’s ‘only’ from the back of a two-seater – which is about as close as 99.999r% of the population will get, whether pilot or not.
My only criticism of the article was that he referred to the P1 as the ‘Co-Pilot’. Actually, he was the Pilot, and the journalist was PUS, or whatever the Euro-bufoons at EASA calls it now.
Whether it’s just a ride, handling the controls of a new rating, the Spit is still at the top of most folks ‘to do’ list…:diablo:
Why Not?
Some strangely negative comments….. If Boultbee can make a buck and the punters can affort it, why not…? Boultbee aren’t fools, so they will take all the appropriate steps. It’s all down to what’s cleared with the insurers. A good breifing and common-sense will sort it. 🙂
I suppose this counts as a design fault as it could have been easily sorted out. I never really understood why WWII bomber crew did not have fighter pilot type permanant chutes. We lost a hell of a lot of aircrew having to find and clip on their chutes.
In 1944 some bomber pilots were issued with seat type chutes as a trial. There are several accounts of them saying they only survived because they had their chutes on them…. Not stowed away out of reach requiring the flight engineer to help find it, clip it on, while having to sort his own chute and make his escape.
Have you ever tried to move about the confines of an a/c wearing a seat-type ‘chute’…? 😮 As far as I’m aware, RAF Bomber pilots all normally wore a Seat-Type ‘chute when flying British-built a/c. Their seats were normally ‘bucket-type’ to accomodate the Irvin. Other crew members simply did not have the space, or required greater mobility, especially gunners. I’m sure there may have been some variations however, such as US bombers such as the Liberator. 🙂
Is this the word police?
At the risk of coming across as overly politically correct….a concept I generally find silly…can we decide to quit using the term “Jap”?
The war was over a long time ago.
The term ‘Jap’ or ‘Japs’ is a perfectly logical linguistic contractions, as is the term ‘Nips’ from their own term, ‘Nipponese’. It’s no different to the term ‘Brits’, about which we never complain – and why should we..?
Much as some of these terms cause sharp intakes of breath – such is the prevalence of the Orwellian mindset indoctrinated today, – they are often used by the very people that are supposed to be suffering from such remarks. I’ve often heard Pakistanis referring to each other as ‘P aki’s’. Even the supposedly out-of-bounds ‘N-word’ gets used ad nauseam by those who would be thought to complain the loudest. As the very practical antipodeans have said, it’s really all ‘sticks & stones’ anyway. 🙂
Maybe we can return to the actual subject of the thread now. :rolleyes:
Kermit Weeks.
Negativity towards Kermit Weeks might be because he popularises vintage aviation, helps make it accessible. There are probably some enthusiasts who would rather ‘their’ hobby stayed in the shadows. Just a guess:)
I must say, I too was rather surprised at the tone of some comments. KW does VASTLY more than anyone else on the entire planet for historic aviation. Sure, he’s ‘wedged to the max’ as the kids say these days. He could of course have left it invested, but he chooses to get pleasure from sharing the benefits of his wealth. His collection is stunning – and accessable to all.
KW is also a superb pilot, and took part in – and won – aerobatic contests for many years.
KW also takes on many projects that probably no other individual on the planet has ever touched. Added to that, unlike most conventional museums, most of his a/c are not condemned to a dusty death, they are cherished and either fly, or are destined to fly. That is, after all what ‘historic aviation’ is supposed to be about…..
Oh, – and he happens to be a thoroughly nice guy. 🙂
I was travelling on an airline that rhymes with BryanAir, when I discovered lots of what turned out to be pubic hair on one of the seats at the back of the a/c. I don’t know how it got there.
John Green
I think that you mean Ryanhair…
Blowing Our Own Trumpet.
I was reminded of what fantastic a/c the VC10 was to look at. It’s a pity that the time, expense and effort that went into Concord(e) wasn’t put into the VC10 to develop a suitable world export version.
Sadly, Concord(e) was probably always destined to be uneconomical to operate.
The Comet really was unfortunate bad luck, the price we paid for being at the cutting-edge.
I also think that the ‘rationalisation’ was over-egged. Sure, seperately, the UK companies didn’t have the rescources of the big US companies, but the UK firms could have worked together. It’s worked fine for Airbus…. It still could work here, since most of the ‘know-how’ in Airbus still seems to come from the UK…..!
What we lack is the political will and determination, not the knowledge and skills. :rolleyes:
Been showing the full programmes on BBC2 (part 3 tomorrow 7pm) – amazing where Dan Snow gets his info from – apparently the Catalina wasn’t fitted with wheels during the war?….
iPlayer link – http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01hzqzj/
He’s correct, they weren’t, from the PBY-1 of 1937 through to PBY-5. They were non amphibious until the PBY5-A was introduced in around October 1941. All the early RAF Catalinas were non amphibious as I understand it. The non amphibious were still made until around 1943. Better range without the u/c to lug around of course.
I can remember this. Filmed at Booker. A gathering of parties associated with MH434 – ATA pilots, test pilots, engineers, ACS, a Dutch pilot who had flown it, all sitting and bantering.
Mark
The very one. Must have been around 1980…… I didn’t have a VCR back in those days (Who did..!) but I made a sound-recording – long-lost.
There must be a copy somewhere…..I’ve been looking for ages..:)
Pretty sure this is the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzsJBjbCyvM&feature=share&list=PLF74F546C58BDD22B
Daz, That’s a great old clip with Neil – still one of the best, but not the one. It was a dedicated program on ‘434. They had assembled all the remaining pilots who were left at that time for supper. Great program – with some dire muic as I recall….!!! 🙂
Name That Program….
A slight thread-drift, but;- Many years ago, in either the very late 1970’s or early ’80’s, there was a TV documentary dedicated to MH434. Can anyone here remember what it was called..? I wonder if it is still available….? Tt may have been for the old Thames TV, and would have been prior to Sir Adrian Swire selling the machine.