An Old Chestnut.
There are some very well rehearsed arguments on the question of whether or not to fly old aircraft. Certainly, if a machine is very original and unique, there must be a strong argument to keep it original and on the deck. On the other side of the coin, a MkIX Spit ‘dataplate special’ will give a lot of people huge amounts of pleasure and help to keep the legend alive, so it’s a no-brainer.
A/c like the Comet present a more complex case. Black Magic will be an excellent replica, as only, as far as I’m aware, the pilots seat (..and the Reg’.) is original. That is not, for any smart-alecs, in ANY way to denigrate it, but obviously, it’s whole raison-detre of that machine is 100% for flight. Likewise, whilst in no way denigrating ‘SS, it’s was in such poor repair and stripped-out when O.W. acquired it, rebuilding it to airworthy status meant a very large part of the a/c was new or replacement material or parts.
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I know that there are some very switched-on folk in these forums who are fully aware of the ongoing effect of restoring and maintaining a/c in an airworthy status. Some enthusiast might not be aware of this however. Thus, the ‘to fly or not to fly’ issue primarily applies early on, because sure as hell, as time goes by an inevitable transmutation will occur. I’d suggest ‘SS is well past that point. It’s worth recalling, she’d been crashed, rebuilt, re-engined and re-propped before the war, had sat-out rotting under tarps for the duration, and was basically just a shell when tarted-up for the FoB after the war. (I hope the experts on ‘SS will forgive me if I’ve only quoted a couple of details from distant memory.) The restoration to flight was a herculean task with a clear purpose; Flight.
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Is there a risk? Sure, but TSC have a wonderful record and reputation for operating such a/c with great professional rigour and safety. In the case of ‘SS, flying her makes sense. Where she operates from is really just an operational detail.
.When I saw her fly after her restoration, I was very moved, as it was a sight that I never though realistically possible. Now that Hatfield has succumbed to the bulldozers, the remaining a/c are the most visible memorials to the magic of D.H. ‘SS must’ surely take pride of place as a reminder of those heady days.
Another one.
Can’t answer that, but a few years ago there was another documentary which I think was titled ‘Tunnellers’, which featured many of the (then) surviving Great Escapers.
You may be able to find out more here;- http://www.raf.mod.uk/project104/
Great photo and painting.
This thread has served to remind me just what a beautiful design the Comet was. If it IS true that O.W. are getting her fettled for flight I’ll be there for sure. 🙂
Ahhhh….
Slicer;- What a shape to behold. Not a bad effort from D.H. for a ‘quickie’..!
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G.S;- Familiar as I am with the sound of a Queen or two, the Comet just seemed to have a sound of it’s own…I must say, the first time I saw and heard it run-in at O.W, the hairs on the back of my neck stood-up. Sublime.
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I suppose numerous people on these forums must have asked this, but does anyone know if there are any plans for TSC to sally forth with ‘SS any more..?:confused:
Pics.
Scion;- Love these photos! Any more? We have an unsated appetite this side of the pond…:)
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‘Affording’ does not = ‘affluent’…! I’d say the ‘affluent’ pilots fly their own business jets, everyone else struggles with the costs to some degree, apart from the engineers…;)
Legs.
Interesting. I know the Gull IV/VI went through several gestations of u/c, but I’d always presumed that the early Proctors had relatively few differences to the Vega, especially the Proctor I. A late Vega with the curved windscreen and a Proctor I look, superficially, very close. I thought it was mainly the cabin area and a few extra ancillaries. I’ve seen photos of the Vega legs and, on the face of it, they look the same as your legs in the photos. Do you know what the changes were?
Cowlings.
As a matter of interest, I wonder if anyone knows why the cowlings on most of the Flugwerk a/c are a different shape – more parallel, with a sharper entry to the rounded front..? Is it something necessitated by the ASh engine…bigger…? It’s usually the only obvious give-away.
I can’t see any truly original ‘190’s taking to the air anyway. Too few and to precious. A vast percentage of the ‘warbirds’ flying now are really dataplate-specials built with little or no material from the actual ‘donor’ a/c. Frankly, I don’t have any problem with that at all. The really original gems of rare a/c are probably better in a static museum, as if they were airworthy, they would inevitably gradually become less original as more and more new and replacement parts and material were introduced. It’s an well-rehersed old bogie in preserved airworthy a/c.
Yikes…!
The Herc’ seems to touch the car at 0:28…! If there was a gap, it was a very small one…:eek:
What a treat.
Really great to see another ‘190 take to the skies. Is this another Flugwerk machine? The ailerons look great. Interesting too as it’s a test-flight, sound and all, and no silly music. Great machine, great flight, great video. I’m looking forward to seeing a formation of ‘190’s now there are several flying in the States….!
Not Hull Insurance Though.
It’s only the Third Party element of the insurance that is mandatory. The Hull element is entirely optional, just as with a motor vehicle. Frankly though, if you can’t afford to properly insure your a/c, you really can’t afford to fly in the first place…! :rolleyes:
Legs.
Nice legs TC, and well done to KF for a nice job. Do you happen to know if all Proctors shared the same legs. (I presume that they aren’t handed?) I ask this as the later Proctors were significantly heavier than the Vega-derived MkI’s..?
Ace.
Lovely pics again.
Sadsack asked about the differences. As I understand it she is essentially very accurate. Washout aside, she has a tailwheel, modern avionics, Queen II’s as opposed to Six Series II’s, with C/S props and power operated flaps. All operational practicalities this far down the timeline. I doubt if she has the full tankage of the originals too, as it’d be quite unnecessary. I’m sure there must be someone on the forum with the full SP….. Anyway, ‘hats-off’ to the team behind her, she’s a real credit…:)
I was fortunate enough to see and hear ‘SS at O.W, and I have to say, I found the her scintillating. Such a rare sight.
Black Magic will have a bit more poke, as well as Hydromatic props, which are featherable, as opposed to the earlier type used on the Flabob replica and ‘SS, adding significantly to safety.
Can’t wait to see the potential line-up of late 1930’s racers at O.W…!
Real..?
Simonr;- I walked under that P51 a couple of weeks ago and presumed it to be a GRP replica….. Is it real?
Photos.
Digressing slightly;- Does anyone here know where there are some good,clear shots of the cockpits of any of the antipodean Gulls such as ‘PR’s…?