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  • in reply to: Vickers Supermarine Company Logo #820437
    DaveKey
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    This one?

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    The Supermarine Flag design appeared on design specification folders, and adorning the wall of the Executive Mess at Hursley Park, well into the 1950s … but when you look at the “official” publications it is the Vickers Armstrongs design that appears … and as Schneiderman also says in #4 … the interlocked VA and the “Spitfire” in script in post #15 would be the most appropriate for a Spitfire display since that was what appeared in the original brochures … though I suspect most Supermariners would have gone with “their” logo of the flag.

    in reply to: Supermarine Aviation Works Ltd #820443
    DaveKey
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    Webbs photos credited as Vickers were in his archives and I daresay the duplicates are in the Cambridge University archives of their succesors (BAE Systems ?).

    Some are in the Vickers archive at Cambridge University, but not all … or at least I have not managed to find them (yet). If anyone does have any pictures of the Supermarine works or dispersal sites I would be very interested (I know … wouldn’t we all … 😉 ) but I am trying to pull together a history of the works and the dispersal, a sideline to my voluntary role as the historian for Hursley Park (Supermarine’s Design and Production base from Dec 1940 to 1958) and to help a few “projects” on the works and dispersal sites … so any help would be gratefully received.

    Cheers
    Dave

    in reply to: Supermarine Aviation Works Ltd #820447
    DaveKey
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    Hi,

    Just come to the thread and noticed the pair of pictures of the floating bridge and Woolston Works in post #9.

    I’m really interested in the second picture of the remainder of the Woolston works and Floating Bridge. Do you know where it came from? I think it would be have to be post war, and probably quite a bit later (1950s ?) based on the tower blocks in the background.

    Cheers
    Dave

    in reply to: Winchester visit #856415
    DaveKey
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    Their is also a couple of miles from Winchester the I.B.M head quarters at Hursley which I believed was a Fighter command group HQ :rolleyes:

    Ken

    Hi Ken,

    Bit late in the day but just to clarify… Hursley Park was requisitioned in late 1940 by the Ministry Of Aircraft Production to house the bombed out design and production departments of Vickers Armstrongs Supermarine. It remained their HQ throughout the war and the post war period, only finally being relinquished in 1958, when IBM became the new tenants.

    So the majority of Spitfires as well as Seafires and all if the Supermarine jets were designed and prototyped there.

    It had earlier aviation links too. In 1917 it first became the home to no.2 cadet wing of the Royal Flying Corps (before they moved to Hastings in October) and the the Wireless Operators, later renamed the Artillery and Infantry Cooperation School of the RFC moved there, remaining until May 1918 when the camp was handed over to the US AEF. The RFC observers were based in Hursley but flew from Worthy Down, in a similar way to Supermarine who built prototypes at Hursley but never flew them there, initially using Worthy Down again and then later High Post etc.

    Unfortunately, it’s both a private site and there are no visible signs of either the RFC or Supermarine … So a fantastic history and a beautiful location in the Hampshire countryside, but not practical as a site to visit, without prior arrangement with IBM.

    in reply to: Memories of Vickers-Supermarine (and others) at Hursley Park ? #973065
    DaveKey
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    I had a chat with Stella Rutter some time ago and she had some great stories, over and above her recollections on Supermarine, but I’d agree with R6915 it’s a personal memoir that features Supermarine rather than the other way around.

    Mike Roussel, who wrote ‘Spitfire’s Forgotten Designer’ came up to Hursley whilst working on his book and during this, and following the launch, it was great to be able to meet some of the remaining Supermariners and the relatives of others.

    So hopefully I’ll be able to start recording more of the Hursley Park part in Supermarine’s story.

    I was wondering whilst writing this whether anyone is aware of any plans to remember the dispersal of Supermarine in 1940. Would seem to me to be a good chance to let people know the role so many small workshops played in keeping the Spitfire available.

    Thanks for all the comments … If anyone is aware of any more I’m still keen to hear them.

    Thanks
    Dave

    in reply to: Memories of Vickers-Supermarine (and others) at Hursley Park ? #978041
    DaveKey
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    Harry Griffith’s book is one of the most useful for trying to piece together the way in which Supermarine used Hursley, particularly in the early days there as he references many of the different locations used, like the stables and rooms in the basement. I also remember the display although sadly I didn’t know the reason behind it, which was a great shame and I can testify to the quality.

    Since I first posted I have been fortunate to have had a chance to talk to a few of the surviving Supermariners, a true privilege.

    Although this year I am working (by the way when I say ‘working’ the research not my day job, just a passion I have to fit in as and when I can) primarily on the estate during The Great War but I am also starting to look at how to mark the fact that next year is the 75th anniversary of the arrival of the Supermarine design and production teams at Hursley following the bombing go the works in Southampton and the dispersal of Spitfire production.

    Dave

    in reply to: Memories of Vickers-Supermarine (and others) at Hursley Park ? #981214
    DaveKey
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    Dave,
    Very belatedly I have sent you an email. My apologies for the delay in responding.

    Regards
    Dave

    DaveKey
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    There’s a copy at Hailsham going on abebooks for £30 plus postage. Better hurry!

    Thanks, there’s one less copy there now 🙂

    DaveKey
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    I’ve always been fascinated by Hursely Park, High Post, and Chilbolton although I have very little info on them.

    Don’t forget Worthy Down.

    As I start to dig into this I have no doubt these will also begin to “sneak” into what I uncover.

    There is someone else who posts here and on the Airfield Information Exchange (http://www.airfieldinformationexchan…nity/forum.php) forum who has info on the site, might be Daveotu?

    Thanks, I’ll follow up the lead

    Is there much left of original buildings etc?

    It depends on what you classify as the “original buildings”.

    The initial relocation was directly in Hursley House itself. That is still standing in it’s full glory, although beyond a picture of a Spitfire on the wall you wouldn’t know Supermarine had ever been there.

    Also many of the original, pre-Supermarine, buildings used by them (like the Stables) are still standing. Although the Entertainment’s Hall, with it’s renowned dance floor, wasn’t up to the punishment engine testing gave it and had to be demolished.

    The main drawing office was located to the east of “The House” and this survived into the eighties at least (I can remember it, although by that time it was referred to as “X Block”).

    The Experimental Hangar, to the south of the main buildings near the Southampton Road entrance, was also demolished some time ago. The site is now an overflow car park owing to the chemicals used there having “somewhat contaminated” the soil!

    Cheers
    Dave

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