awww…. condolences.
eurocanards overcome the average medium fighter’s disadvantages by a combination of advanced engines and design and technologies. they may be medium fighter size, but a rafale’s empty weight is little more than an F-16’s and much lighter than a hornet… the M88 and EJ200 have incredible TWRs, and their delta wings allow them considerable fuel tankage for good range and lots of hardpoints for weapons while canards and FCS give great agility. RCS reduction helps too.
bear in mind rafale and typhoon were designed to fight- and win- late cold war legacy heavy fighters like F-15s and Su-27/30/35s.
http://www.vectorsite.net/indexav.html
greg goebel’s military aircraft survey. he seems quite a fan of swedish a/c, has very good detailed articles on the tunnan, lansen, draken, viggen, gripen and saab 105.just look out for the links to them on the homepage. great site!
in that case then how many SDBs will F-35A and B be able to carry internally respectively? a quadpack in each bay?
uh… someone has made an FSW cruise missile before. the US AGM-129 ACM has been around for almost 15 years. looks like that’s what the chinese missile drew its inspiration from. check this out:-
looks stealthy.
I tend to think the problem with AWACS aircraft in this case is not radar capability but loiter-time. An aerostat is capable of remaining on station for extended periods while conventional AEW aircraft would have to be relieved from their patrol every few hours. Maintaining an uninterrupted look-out even in absence of heightened political tension would be bloody expensive that way.
but maintaining a continuous 24hr AWACS patrol would not be too difficult for small areas like okinawa and guam; keeping one AWACS aloft at all times would do. that’s what we do in singapore at least, compare the 200km radar radius of our E-2Cs with our 60km-by-50km territory! i agree defending a larger area like taiwan would be problematic though. good move for them to acquire those two more E-2Cs for a total of 6. the radar operators will no doubt be keeping an eye out for tiny 600kmh blips flying at low level 🙂
if the chinese build their LACMs like the americans build their tomahawks, each will cost something like 9 million yuan… woohooo. the cheaper labour will bring down costs of course 😀
a drogue-equipped USAF tanker fleet could help out the tanker-deficient USN aviation too. once they stop hating each other that is 😉
then US had better think of getting those aerostats themselves for okinawa and guam! it appears AWACS won’t do against cruise missiles right? taiwan has E-2Cs already.
will Hawkeye 2000 and the improved E-3s be able to spot cruise missiles well enough that those aerostats will be unnecessary?
that 13G figure for the M2k would have KO’ed the pilot if sustained for any length of time.
IIRC Tomahawk Blk IV can’t be torpedo-tube launched, due to structural compromises made to reduce cost. VLS-equipped 688Is and Seawolfs can still launch them, but i don’t think Trafalgars have VLS.
what matter with you??? comparing a C17 with an A400 is like comparing a Nissan Titan with a Renault Megane!
Ridiculous!
the Herc and A400M ares close war zones tactical planes, the C17 is a transport cargo plane!
they haven’tb the same use!
buying A400M will not remove the need of Antonov or C17, quite as simple!
so the A400M will land everywhere the C17 can’t!
that’s my exact point! precisely because an A400 can’t compare with a C17, that’s why i said they aren’t direct competitors. and why i meant that A400 and C17 cater to different markets!
RN has been buying new lots of Tomahawks recently. don’t think they have any other platform that fires them
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I’ll second that bottom pic…
Curious: How stealthy???
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i think it’ll be stealthy enough that the RCS would be much better if all those people weren’t on the deck reflecting radar.
it takes everyone awhile to accept that this discussion is PURELY ACADEMIC doesn’t it? hehe… this thing is explicitly and unabashedly unrealistic, and we’re just doing it for interest’s sake. the rest of the world isn’t taken into consideration at all! not the world economy, not Wal-Mart, not india. and the F**king treehuggers don’t count also, so no talk about the environmental effects of sunken ships or oil spills or dead fishes unless they affect sonar performance or something.
well crobato, the point here isn’t to just sink chinese ships and make sure SK and Jap ships are unscathed. the intention basically is to see how chinese maritime trade can be crippled with the small RN SSN fleet. sinking ships isn’t the only way to do that, you just have to prevent the ships from offloading at ports. and there are lots of ways to carry that out without having to eyeball a merchantman’s flag with your periscope. that i must admit is quite risky for an SSN…
to add on to Severodinsk’s idea, imagine a few tomahawks hitting a place crawling with pipes full of highly flammable susbstances. if the port doesn’t just blow up to kingdom come, most of it will at least be on fire, and we all know fires in places filled with crude oil are enormously difficult to put out. iraqi oil well fires take weeks to put out! so a few tomahawks will disable a port for weeks, and the blown-up and sunken hulks of tankers will block up the place and be really hard to remove. in fact blowing up a few big ships at strategically important points in port approaches may be just as effective as roaming the south china sea sinking tankers. the big sunken hulks will be even harder to clear than minefields, and probably will restrict port access to all except small shallow draft vessels. i have to say i know little about maritime stuff like this tho, so you pros pls critique as u like!