Actually russians used HMS first. In the 80’s all MiG-29 even downgraded foreign versions used it. It is hard for russians to cope with modern innovations since USSR break up and following years hurt russian economy more then WWII!
Su-34 is the only modern F-111 equivalent.
But i don’t see how it is actually superior to the good old F-111.
It must be somehow superior to the F-111D.
May be Schorsch can tell us?
Most bizarre to me is the max war load of Su-34 only 8t! It schould be at least 16-18t if F-111 could ferry 14t. May be russians never push their designs to its limits, but even smaller F-15E can carry 12t.
payload-range, weapons, radar
I think that Typhoon, when it will reach maturity (block 3) and Su-35 will be a match fot each over as air dominance fighters, but Super flanker will be best multi-role fighter in the world.
Right from what I see, I cannot really see the big huffle about the Su-35, it has superior radar, cockpit, weapon systems etc.. more so than the latest versions MKI, SMK etc.
But It is still a flanker, same basic frame and the dissadvantges associated with it, but with a few improvements.
In performance wise, It will not match the Eurofighter in turn rate, T/W ratio, Climb rate, agility, supercruise—only max range from what I see.
Talking about RS, not my fortay, the Eurofighter is claimed to have 3rd best (F-22/35 aside) and how the hell sukhoi will make the, areodynamicly optimised,huge, traditonal shape into something with a low RS will be something. No matter how much extra RS coating ect.. you put on it, it still will be a very big, flanker. Also the Eurofighter as sub-set missile storage under the fuselage, where as the su-35 literally lets it all hang out.
Another unknown to me (initate discussion) is the radar in he su-35,
is it AESA? Can it really track targets up to 400km away as mention regurlay (airforces monthly, aircraft etc…)
I may be better than the Typhoon radar at present :confused: , but hopefully and Im pretty confident when the Eurofighter gets it AESA radar it will be F-22 standard.
Prove me wrong 😀
Gee… Its what BAE and EADS wants you to think and you are falling for it. Right now Typhoon is matched by Su-30 MKI (as air dominance fighter only, Air to Ground MKI is Waaaaay better). Wait for Su-35.
The big difference between Su-35 and eurocanards is that Flanker don’t need external tanks.
“If the -16 pilot can get it into a rolling engagement (scissors) then yes, the Falcon will beat the Flanker any day… and the F-22, and the F-15, and the F-18, and the F-14 and pretty much any other fighter you care to name.”
29? Eurocanards?
I don’t think that even little nimble Falcon can prevail over Flanker in dogfight.
“”And people wonder why the roll acceleration of a Flanker or F-15 isn’t as fast a F-16″”
what about 29?
right 10 years delay.
F-15 prototype flew in ’72 T-10M in 1981.
But Flanker did surpass Eagle, so it is O.K i think.
F-15 reached IOC in 1976. 10 years difference with Flanker.
Flanker reached IOC in 1986, rendering both Eagle and Mirage 4000 not obsolete, but definitely less impressing.
“”X-posting from BR”” what is it?
please gime a link so i can at least read about it.
What is his general impression whiout PC bull****? Which 4+ bird is the best?
WOW!!!
Where can i get it?
MiG-25R could achieve M=3.2, but MiG-25P was handicapped by the drag of its 4 missles (or at least i think so). Anyway, its not the plane that muct catch and kill Blackbird , but the missles. R-40 had only 60 km range. R-33 – 120 km(or 160-180km using Phoenix like tragectory – useless against fighters, not sure if it would work against SR-71).