SHORAD- Trishul, Maitri LLQRM (with MBDA)
SAMs- Akash medium, Barak-2 (70 km with IAI), Barak-3 (150 km with IAI)
ATBM- Prithvi AD (80-50 Km alt), Axo Atmospheric Defence (~100 Km 30 Km alt)
SSMs/ AShMs- Brahmos (with NPO-Mash), as of yet unknown helicopter launched light SSM (in Penguin class)
ATGMs- Nag with IIR seeker (helicopter & ground launched)
Ballistic Missiles- Agni 1, 2, 2AT, 3 and now 4 to be developed. Prithvi-1,2 and Dhanush/ Prithvi Naval. Sagarika SLBM
Cruise Missiles- the above Nirbhay
Air to Air Missiles- The Astra BVR missile (for the LCA, M2K and MKI) & possibly the K-100-1/KS-172 with Russia.
Excellent summary Nick. Thanks for that. Any idea of status of Nag ? And what about the range of Sagarika ?
I think it is reasonable to state that India has several programs underway for precision munitions as well which it will reveal over time.
Its already out there:
Released in Jan 2006
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/01/17/stories/2006011702381900.htm
Dr Saraswat said the DRDO is evolving a roadmap for preparing the country to meet the tough demands of network-centric warfare of the future, which involves intensive use of information technology (IT), communications and miniaturised technologies.
The roadmap for the next 10-15 years involves developing a new class of weapons that are guided by precision and propelled by smart, navigational systems to achieve maximum impact, in multiple locations and with least collateral damage. For India the bigger challenge is to make all these at low costs, he said.
While defence scientists have been making good progress in developing a range of sensors, radars and inertial navigation, one of the urgent needs is to put in place a GPS (global positioning system) network, that will dramatically improve the accuracy of weapon systems, said Dr Saraswat, who is responsible for several missile, air warfare and aerospace technology developments in the DRDO.
Recently, the Ministry of Civil Aviation and the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) have firmed up plans for the `GAGAN’ project, which is a low-cost, GPS satellite network that is aimed to meet India’s requirements, Dr Saraswat added.
Development of MEMS sensors in the next 3-4 years and precision guided sub-munitions (PGMs) in 5-6 years are major milestones to be achieved in the roadmap for network-centric capabilities. Building databases, encryption capabilities and establishing real time connectivity and communication, riding on IT infrastructure is the other big challenge, he said.
Later that year in may 2006 our PM MMS confirmed it.
http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/15/stories/2006051512740100.htm
Dr. Singh said the fact that the DRDO’s list included propulsion systems, camouflage and stealth technologies, sensors and micro-electromechanical systems, precision-guided munitions, robotics and unmanned vehicle technologies illustrated its “growing confidence” in these fields.
These PGMs will be really precise when they will be guided by mil grade signal from revived Indo-Russian GLONASS where to be luanched GLONASS-M satellites will be eventually replaced with next generation navigation satellites.
Also, any confirmation that we are collaborating with Russia on KS-172 ? There were some reports back in 04/05 but after then didn’t hear any thing more.
IAF’s Sukhois to battle next-gen fighters [Eurofighter]
Monday, 18 June , 2007, 20:57
New Delhi: The Indian Air Force’s frontline Sukhoi-30MKI multi-role aircraft will battle with next generation fighters during the upcoming Indo-UK joint fighter exercises to be held in England early next month.
Eight Sukhoi-30MKI fighters, which have the reputation of having outwitted American F-16 fighters earlier would be pitted against the new Generation Eurofighter Typhoon during the ten-day exercises ‘Indra Danush-07’ to be held at Royal Air Force base in Wadington in central England from July 2 to 12, according to IAF sources in New Delhi.
A contingent of eight SU-30MKI, two IL-78 mid-air refuellers and two IL-76 transport aircraft would leave their Pune base on June 24 for the joint exercises. This would be the second of the series of joint air exercises between Royal Air Force and Indian Air Force.
During the earlier exercise held over the Gwalior air base, the Royal Air Force had pitted their Tornado fighters against IAF Sukhoi’s, Mig-29 and Mirage 2000.
Though IAF fighters and pilots had matched their skills against F-16s during joint air exercises with US and Singapore air forces, this would be the first time that Indian pilots would come up against next generation fighters.
Typhoons have just been inducted into the Royal Air Force and along with Swedish SAAB company’s Grippen fighters are two of the most advanced fighters in the world.
Both Eurofighter Typhoon and Swedish Grippen are bidding for India’s contract to purchase 126 multi-role fighter aircraft.
IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major would witness the exercises as he embarks on an official visit to United Kingdom from July 10 to 14.
otaku,
AFAIK, we are still into making GaAs based T/R modules in L, S and X band.
and C band T/R modules for SAR satellite RISAT of ISRO. We haven’t stepped into GaN domain as of now.
It was also mentioned that HAL was in talks with SAGEM for FLIR, perhaps to replace the current OLS for the future.
Pit mentioned this on BR while discussing with JC ,Sumeet, George J.
I don’t recall what was Pit’s source. But he always has one. Hope he shares it again. There are more chances that replacement will come from BEL-El-Op JV. Infact Elbit systems is cooperating on IRST for LCA. El-Op is owned by Elbit. So me thinks it will be BEL-El-Op FLIR.
http://www.bel-india.com/BELWebsite/index.aspx?q=§ionid=354
The MoU with Elbit Systems Electro Optics ELOP Limited, Israel, is for setting up a Joint Venture Company (JVC) for co-operation in the development, production and marketing of Thermal Imaging Cameras and Forward Looking Infra Red (FLIRs) for the Indian and global markets. The JVC will develop and market products. The products will be manufactured by BEL and ELOP.
old ECM systems used the FML or frequency memory loop for deception jamming. Paul has it right, deception jamming is not equal to DRFM, but DRFM is the modern day concept replacing FML to produce all kinds of jamming in one unit. With them you also of a different kind of jamming Smart Noise Jamming or basically Coherent Noise Jamming. Both Coherent, non coherent & deception, noise jamming all can be done by DRFM alone. That is why you see modern day pods/systems are compact. Earlier noise jammers and deception jammers used to be two different piece of equipment.
For FML, jamming coherent radars was not possible. Thats why invention of DRFM is hailed as revolution in ECM history. Now you can almost instantenously store the enemy signal and play it back as it is or by modulating using all the possible DSP techniques. Software based ECM has come of age.
Nick jammers w/o DRFM, digital recievers, phased array transmitter antenna won’t be as effective the ones with them. As i said earlier radars that apply coherent signal processing require DRFM to generate appropriate jamming programs.
Back in the day of MKI equipment selection russia didn’t have a modern state of the art ECM pod.
TsNIRTI’s MSP-418K jamming pod which has a techniques generator built around DRFM is first DRFM based ECM system from Russia and together with a RWR and MAWS forms all digital “Kedr” integrated EW suite. It was first displayed in MAKs 2003.
MSP-418K where K stands for export version was purchased by Yemen for their Mig-29SMT. Let see if IAF chooses Kedr suite or MSP-418K for our Mig-29 upgrade. For Mig-29K programme instead of MSP-418K either some indian ECM system or Elta’s 8222 pod will be used.
MSP-418K Pod’s weight is 150kg and its dimensions are 230 x 225 x 3,800mm.
Elta’s EL/M 8222 Pod’s weight is 100 kg and its dimensions: low drag (19 cm. X 24 cm.) and (length: 2.40 meter).
TsNIRTI calls 418K lightweight while Elta calls 8222 lightweight and the difference is 50 kgs. No wonder why india went ahead with EL/M 8222.
Another sad thing about Russian ECM industry compared to the west: In MAKs-2003 when MSP-418K was revealed, same year in June EADS was ready with **3rd generation** DRFM. And AFAIK MSP-418K is the first pod using DRFM technology in Russia. West & Israel is far ahead in ECM technology compared to russia.
PiBu,
whats the difference between Sura-M and Sura-K ?
And if the Australians pick the F-22 over the F-35 does that mean Australia will be flying F-22s?
Garry, your analogy doesn’t makes sense in this case. Both Sukhoi and RAC Mig want india to join their 5G fighter program. This is supported by Russian Govt. at the highest level. On the other side both IAF & Govt. of India are also looking for international partner to co develop, co produce a FGFA. Hence SDB & RAC Mig made repeated presentations to DRDO, HAL and IAF; who have acted upon the same after careful deliberation.
F-22 is already there, inducted into USAF. You can’t approach it the way india is approaching PAK-FA. Neither did LM under patronage of US govt approach Australia, making repeated presentations with intent of co developing and co producing F-22 with them. Therefore your analogy doesn’t holds good.
Pit so what about the jammer is it russian or swedish ?
I posted this sometime before on IAF thread.
This is a cross post from BRF.
1) Go to press release section of MoD site.
mod.nic.in
2) Click on:
Defence Minister’s statement on the implementation of the reports of the Standing Committee on Defence (PIB 16-5-2007)
3) Download the report.
Atleast read the action taken by Govt. sections of this post to get official picture from indian side.
Some interesting news on 5th generation fighter:
Committee’s Recc:
In this connection, the Committee also note that the existing front line
fighter fleet of the Indian Air Force would have reached the end of their
service life by 2020-25 and be due for replacement by that time. The
Committee were also given to understand that some discussions were underway with a foreign country for design of new fifth generation fighter aircraft. The Committee strongly feel that coordination efforts between the DRDO, the Air Force, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and other consultants must be initiated at the earliest, and development of an indigenous Multi-role Combat Aircraft be formally commenced, so that it could replace the current fleet in the time frame 2020-25 so that there should be no gap in Air Force Resources.
Action Taken by the Government
Subsequent to Air HQs’ preliminary interaction with Sukhoi Design Bureau (SDB) and RAC MiG and presentations made by both the companies in Dec. 2005 on their concept in presence of representatives of Air HQs, DRDO and HAL, Air HQs proposed for setting up a committee for selection of development partner for FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft). A committee under the chairmanship of Secretary (DP) was set up in June 06 to examine various aspects of Russian proposals for codevelopment of FGFA in order to obtain the best possible offer from the Russian side. Both the Russian companies were invited to make detailed presentation. After the presentation before the committee, they had held technical discussions with the representatives of IAF, HAL and ADA.
After detailed analysis and discussions on the proposal received from SDB and RAC MiG, a final meeting of the Committee was held on 29th Nov 2006 to deliberate on the joint recommendations of technical specialists from IAF and HAL. The committee recommended that (i) [COLOR=”Blue”]an expression of interest to participate in the development of FGFA with SDB be communicated to the Russian Government and (ii) signing of an (Inter Government Agreement) IGA between the two Government for co-development and co-production of FGFA.[/COLOR]The competent authority has accepted the recommendations of the committee. Action is in process to finalise the mutually acceptable IGA before the approval of the Government is solicited for signing the IGA. Two Committees viz Technical Committee under Chairman, HAL and Programme Committee under Additional Secretary (DP) have also been set up with the approval of the competent authority to progress the Project..
So its clear that indian has choosen FGFA from Sukhoi Design Bureau over RAC MIG.
More on FGFA:
Committee’s Rec:
The Committee note that the various features of Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), as enunciated by the Ministry of Defence, are far more advanced as compared to that of the existing aircraft available with Indian Air Force. Presentation on the aircraft has been made by the Sukhoi Design Bureau and RAC MiG and the proposal is still under
examination. Also consultations are going on with Russian Government in this regard for joint development. The Committee are informed that Indian Air Force is finalising the Air staff requirements for the FGFA and the concept for its development has not yet been finalised. The Committee, therefore, recommend that the Ministry must give serious
thought to finalise the concept of FGFA at the earliest. The Committee also wish to be apprised periodically by the Ministry of the progress made in this regard.
Action Taken by Govt.
The Committee constituted under the Chairmanship of Secretary, Dept of Defence Production has recommended the steps to be put up in place to
progress the programme. ‘In principle’ approval has been accorded in January, 2007for a joint development of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) with Russians. An MoU has been signed with the Russian Government in January, 2007. Technical discussions will now be held between both the parties to finalise the technical specifications of the aircraft and define the extent of workshare for design and development of aircraft.
This should clear up any doubts as to what happened when india & russian govt. officials met in Jan 2007.
AND it doesn’t gets more official than this in public domain. Rather than going on speculating about india’s role in PAK-FA etc… it will be wiser to wait for next inter-governmental meeting later this year for more details to emerge.
Even Ivanov confirmed it:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1429622.cms
Observing that Russia had started developing the warplane about three years ago, visiting Deputy Premier and Defence Minister Sergei B Ivanov said “some time back, India showed interest in joining this project. It took them (India) some time to scrutinise the various options.
“Now, India has informed us that a final choice has been made. We can (now) open up contractual work for Indian accession to the project,” Ivanov told reporters at a joint press conference with his Indian counterpart A K Antony, after signing four documents.
Although interaction has begun on the joint development and production of fifth generation fighter jet, the actual signing of agreements could take some more time.
Ok guys some good & OFFICIAL news
Also, don’t forget to check my other posts from this MoD report in naval discussion and artillery & Armour thread at BRF. This is cross post from BRF.
1) Go to press release section of MoD site.
mod.nic.in
2) Click on:
Defence Minister’s statement on the implementation of the reports of the Standing Committee on Defence (PIB 16-5-2007)
3) Download the report.
Some interesting news on 5th generation fighter:
Committee’s Recc:
In this connection, the Committee also note that the existing front line
fighter fleet of the Indian Air Force would have reached the end of their
service life by 2020-25 and be due for replacement by that time. The
Committee were also given to understand that some discussions were underway with a foreign country for design of new fifth generation fighter aircraft. The Committee strongly feel that coordination efforts between the DRDO, the Air Force, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and other consultants must be initiated at the earliest, and development of an indigenous Multi-role Combat Aircraft be formally commenced, so that it could replace the current fleet in the time frame 2020-25 so that there should be no gap in Air Force Resources.
Action Taken by the Government
Subsequent to Air HQs’ preliminary interaction with Sukhoi Design Bureau (SDB) and RAC MiG and presentations made by both the companies in Dec. 2005 on their concept in presence of representatives of Air HQs, DRDO and HAL, Air HQs proposed for setting up a committee for selection of development partner for FGFA (Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft). A committee under the chairmanship of Secretary (DP) was set up in June 06 to examine various aspects of Russian proposals for codevelopment of FGFA in order to obtain the best possible offer from the Russian side. Both the Russian companies were invited to make detailed presentation. After the presentation before the committee, they had held technical discussions with the representatives of IAF, HAL and ADA.
After detailed analysis and discussions on the proposal received from SDB and RAC MiG, a final meeting of the Committee was held on 29th Nov 2006 to deliberate on the joint recommendations of technical specialists from IAF and HAL. The committee recommended that (i) an expression of interest to participate in the development of FGFA with SDB be communicated to the Russian Government and (ii) signing of an (Inter Government Agreement) IGA between the two Government for co-development and co-production of FGFA. The competent authority has accepted the recommendations of the committee. Action is in process to finalise the mutually acceptable IGA before the approval of the Government is solicited for signing the IGA. Two Committees viz Technical Committee under Chairman, HAL and Programme Committee under Additional Secretary (DP) have also been set up with the approval of the competent authority to progress the Project..
FGFA from Sukhoi Design Bureau has been recommended.
More on FGFA:
Committee’s Rec:
The Committee note that the various features of Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), as enunciated by the Ministry of Defence, are far more advanced as compared to that of the existing aircraft available with Indian Air Force. Presentation on the aircraft has been made by the Sukhoi Design Bureau and RAC MiG and the proposal is still under
examination. Also consultations are going on with Russian Government in this regard for joint development. The Committee are informed that Indian Air Force is finalising the Air staff requirements for the FGFA and the concept for its development has not yet been finalised. The Committee, therefore, recommend that the Ministry must give serious
thought to finalise the concept of FGFA at the earliest. The Committee also wish to be apprised periodically by the Ministry of the progress made in this regard.
Action Taken by Govt.
The Committee constituted under the Chairmanship of Secretary, Dept of Defence Production has recommended the steps to be put up in place to
progress the programme. ‘In principle’ approval has been accorded in January, 2007 for a joint development of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) with Russians. An MoU has been signed with the Russian Government in January, 2007. Technical discussions will now be held between both the parties to finalise the technical specifications of the aircraft and define the extent of workshare for design and development of aircraft.
This should clear up any doubts as to what happened when india & russian govt. officials met in Jan 2007.
On Kaveri Engine:
Committee Rec:
In view of the foregoing, the committee feel that no serious efforts are being made by the Ministry either in projecting realistic demand or in making a judicious selection of design and development of Kaveri Engine by DRDO and HAL jointly. The committee therefore, desire that Ministry should not only explore all ways and means to complete the project as per schedule but also make it a financially viable option vis-à-vis fighter aircraft with similar technology available in the world market. The
committee would like to be apprised of the progress made by the Ministry in this regard.
Action taken by Govt:
To accelerate the progress in the development of Kaveri Engine
programme, Government is very keen to select a reputed engine house as a partner in the development and production along with DRDO and HAL. In this regard, a Request for Proposal (RFP) has been sent to engine houses. This RFP is based on joint discussions between HAL, DRDO, IAF and MoD. The contract is likely to be finalized before the end of 2007, if techno-commercial terms are found acceptable. It is estimated that the production release of such engine can be expected by the end of 2011.
The cost of LCA is competitive with similar fighter aircraft.
On MRCA:
Committee’s rec:
The Committee note that the squadron strength of Air Force at the end of 10th, 11th and 12th Plan period will be 29, 34 and 36 respectively. The Committee also note that the peak strength attained so far by Air Force at any point of time has been 39.5, while the ideal requirement is 44 squadrons. The Committee note that induction and phasing out of Aircraft go side by side in Air Force, however, during the upcoming period 2005-17, phasing out of several ageing Aircraft, is likely to be a major concern, thereby causing substantial depletion of squadron strength in the coming Plan periods. The Committee also note that 140 number of Su-30 MKI and 100 LCAs are expected to be available for induction during 11th and 12th Plans. The Committee, however, feel that despite this, achieving the number of 44 squadrons appears to be a distant dream. Keeping in view the present pace of phasing out and induction of aircraft, the Committee strongly recommend that the Government should accord highest priority to ensure that Squadron strength at any time must not fall below 39.5 and strive to achieve ideal requirement of 44 Squadrons.
The Committee are constrained to note that, keeping in view the ever-increasing delay in operation clearance of LCA, early induction of the same as IAF squadrons seems to be an unrealistic proposition. The Committee are given to understand by the Ministry that the order for 20 numbers of LCA had already been placed and remaining 100 LCA would be made available during the 11th and 12th Plan period. Keeping in view the slow development and repeatedly revision in the schedule of LCA, the committee recommend that Government should also explore alternate option to import the aircraft on ToT so that squadron strength at any time may not fall below the 39.5. TheCommittee also desire that Ministry to strive hard to intensify their efforts to achieve the authorized squadron strength during the 11th and 12th plan period.
Action taken by Govt:
With an objective to improve the depleting squadron strength of the Indian Air Force, the Government have accorded Acceptance of Necessity (AON) for 126 Medium Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) for which RFP is likely to be issued shortly. Government have also accorded Acceptance of Necessity(AON) for additional 40 SU 30 MKI Aircraft to meet immediate requirement of IAF.
With an objective to improve the depleting squadron strength of the Indian Air Force, the Government have accorded Acceptance of Necessity (AON) for 126 Medium Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) for which RFP is likely to be issued shortly. 🙂 Government have also accorded Acceptance of Necessity(AON) for additional 40 SU 30 MKI Aircraft to meet immediate requirement of IAF.
On AWACS:
Committee’s Recc:
The Committee note the immense role of force multiplier in Indian Air Force viz. Flight Refueling Aircraft (FRA) and Airborne Warning & Control System (AWACS), which are able to enhance the capability of other weapon systems presently deployed with Air Force. The Committee note that India has not yet developed a platform for exploiting the role of FRA, thus, Transfer of Technology (ToT) has not been sought for its indigenous
development. The Ministry has, however, made significant progress on the
procurement of three AWACS to be fitted on IL-76 aircraft which are due to be inducted by 2009. The Committee also note that the Government has decided to develop the technology on the lines of AWACS and has,
therefore, initiated the project on the development of Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) aircraft, which is likely to be developed by April 2011. The Committee, therefore, keeping in view the role of force multipliers, recommend that the efforts for the indigenous development of AEW&C aircraft should be intensified. The Ministry should also take initiatives to involve private entrepreneurs/ agencies in the design & development of critical components of the equipment under the ageis of DRDO on sharing basis.
Action taken by Govt:
The Programme for the devlopment of Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) system is progressing well and has reached the stage of Critical Design Review (CDR) of the Mission Avionics. The procurement action for the Executive Jet (aircraft) is in progress. Private industry is also participating in this development programme since the beginning of the project.
On SAMs:
Committee’s Rec:
The Committee note with serious concern that most of the missile firing units of Air Force are extremely old vintage with no spare support and no substantial efforts being taken to upgrade or replace them. In the case of Pechora Missile System, 60 firing units procured from Russia are 1974-90
vintage and as on date only 50 are operational and by the end 2006 only 24 would be left operational. The procurement plan to replace the Pechora System is still at the RFP stage which will not fructify earlier than 2008. As far as OSA-AK System is concerned, the technology is quite outdated and is facing shortage of missile and spares. The overhauling of this system is planned to be done to extend its life. The project of procuring firing units for the same is at CNC stage. Likewise, IGLA Missile
System is also obsolete and 80 percent of the missiles are on life extension. The Committee further note that some indigenous efforts for replacement of the existing systems have been taken with insignificant success, thereby resulting in critical voids. The Committee, therefore, keeping in view the ageing and obsolete missile firing units currently at disposal of Air Force and lackadaisical approach of the Government for their modernisation, strongly recommend that the Government should pay enough attention to the upgradation and modernisation of the missile firing units to enhance air strike capabilities of Air Force, which has been ignored since long. The Committee also desire that adequate funds for their modernisation and procurement must be ensured.
Action taken by Govt:
The Government have planned following acquisitions of missiles to modernize missile firing units of the Air Force.
<br />
SCHEME PLANNED YEAR OF CONTRACT</p>
<p>LOW LEVEL QUICK<br />
REACTION MISSILES<br />
(LLQRMs) 2006-07</p>
<p>MEDIUM RANGE SURFACE<br />
TO AIR MISSILE (MR-SAM) 2006-07</p>
<p>REPLACEMENT OF IGLA 2007-08</p>
<p>02 SQUADRONS OF AKASH<br />
MISSILE 2007-08</p>
<p>ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT<br />
OF IGLA MISSILES 2008-09</p>
<p>ADDITIONAL LLQRM 2010-11</p>
<p>BRAHMOS MULTI SPECTRAL<br />
SENSOR 2010-11</p>
<p>ADDITIONAL MR SAM 2011-12<br />
2. Following action is being taken to extending life of the existing ground to air missile system: (a) OSA AK To enhance the system life, joint overhaul of Army and Air Force’s OSA AK system is being undertaken. This will increase the life upto 2014.
Multi Spectral Sensor for Brahmos means IIR + ARH [anti shipping] & IIR + SAR [LACM]. anyone ???
anyways Multi Spectral Sensor + GLONASS will make this missile one only in its kind.
On Radars:
Committee’s Recc:
The Committee are dismayed to note that some of the ships inducted in Navy are operating without radars and most of the radars fitted on ships are imported. Moreover, most of the missiles, under induction of the Armed Forces, are also imported, which is reflective of serious incapability of our indigenous R&D efforts. The Committee are further constrained to note that only one DPSU i.e. Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) has the infrastructure and capability to design and manufacture radars. The Committee also note that L&T company has been projected as an important partner in radar development in collaboration with BEL. Also, assistance for some electronic system and important modules is being sought from other private companies.
The Committee feel that involvement of private companies in the development of radar technology is a positive effort. The Committee are of the view that DRDO and private sector should intensify their R&D efforts in order to make Radars indigenously, side-by-side with purchase of Radars from foreign countries. The Committee further desire that Government must sign agreement for procurement of radars under ‘buy and make’ provisions of the new procurement procedure so that dependence on foreign countries for radars can be minimized. The transferred technology and design must be shared among DRDO, Ordnance Factories, Defence PSUs and Private Sector engaged in Defence production for further modernization of existing technology and developing the new ones. This strategy will not only help the DRDO to develop their own infrastructure and technology base but will also contribute substantially to the production systems, thereby achieving cost effectiveness of the products and reducing dependence on imports in the long run.
Action taken by govt:
DRDO has developed ‘Revathi’ 3D-Surveillance radar for Corvette Class of Ships and order for two numbers has been received by BEL from Navy. DRDO has also developed SV 2000 Radar for Naval Air borne application for Naval Advance Light Helicopter (ALH) and which is also configured for Dornier Platform. DRDO and Private Sector PSUs are in the process of intensifying R&D efforts to make radars indigenously side-by-side with purchase of radars from foreign countries. DRDO has proposed the following programmes in this direction in the XI Plan such as Fire Control Radar for Combat Aircraft, Low level Transportable Radar, Medium Power Radars, 3D Tactical Control & Short Range Radars, etc. DRDO will make all efforts to involve Defence Public Sector Undertaking (DPSU)/Private Industry for design & development.
This is one of many reasons why Russian planes have enormous radar signature, other being rough surface finish.
By the way this SU30 MKI but also true for MiG 29
Cheers
Russians have reduced the RCS of flanker.
I posted this long time back at BRF and i am posting it again for you.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/airforcefan1/Special%20Report/EMScatteringofSu-27.jpg
Technical paper on russian stealth research is available, do some searching [not through google, libraries etc] and you will find it. They have taken steps to minimize engine RCS contribution as much as possible. If you can’t find that read Janes IDR and/or AWST they all have noted RCS reduction developments with respect to flanker. When flanker was designed RCS reduction was not a criteria. What about F-16 or F-15’s engine ?
wisepanda,
Thales 4A seeker for MICA RF works in J band. Based on that they are making seeker for Meteor in Ku Band with MBDA seeker division. Astra’s seeker is also in Ku Band.
check this out from rakall at BRF:
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=astrabrochureso9.jpg
Astra’s seeker is a variant of MICA-RF’s seeker.
also MKI computer shows 50 million instruction per second. a decade old standard.
Brazilian compared Gripen to previous Su-35 in evaluation.
did you care to read it properly ? It says OVER 50 mil instr per second.
Cross Posting my post from BR:
Check out the price of Block 2 Super Hornet from the Australian deal.
DSCA notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Australia of F-18 E/F Aircraft
WASHINGTON, February 6, 2007 – The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Australia of F/A-18E/F Super Hornet Aircraft as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $3.1 billion.
The Government of Australia has requested a possible sale of 24 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet Aircraft, 48 F414-GE-402 installed engines, 6 F414-GE-402 spare engines, 24 AN/APG-79 Radar Systems, 24 AN/USQ-140 Multifunctional Informational Distribution System Low Volume Terminals, 30 AN/ALR-67(V)3 Electric Warfare Countermeasures Receiving Sets, 145 LAU-127 Guided Missile Launchers and 30 AN/PVS-9 Night Vision Goggles. The proposal will include integration of the AN/ALE-47 Electronic Warfare Countermeasures Systems, Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems, 12 Joint Mission Planning Systems, and AN/ALE-55 Fiber Optic Towed Decoys. Also included are system integration and testing, software development/integration, test sets and support equipment, spare and repair parts, maintenance and pilot training, software support, publications and technical documents, U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance, and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated cost is $3.1 billion.
Ok so 3.1 billion divided by 24 gives 129.16 million per aircraft. Please note this amount doesn’t include any air to air or air to ground weapon systems. Two main system excluded from the above list are ATFLIR pod and AN/ALQ-214(V)2 IDECM cost.
I don’t see IAF going for a config. different from above. The cost of F/A-18 E/F with all its goodies, logistic support etc……… will be equal or near to Rafale/Typhoon.
Looking at this figure i don’t think we will be able to refuse Typhoon or Rafale simply on cost issue. Compare to these[SH, Rafale & Typhoon] Mig-35 will be cheap.
Vikas,
Welcome man. Here is some more from the same report
http://164.100.24.208/ls/CommitteeR/Defence/11threport.pdf
5.35 The Committee note that while entering into the negotiation
for procurement of Sukhoi-30 Aircraft, upgradation of the Aircraft,
as and when required, was also provided for in the contract. After
the need for its upgradation was realised by the Indian Air Force,
the matter was taken up with the Russian Government. The Russians,
after making technical assessment of the economic feasibility of its
upgradation, informed that the same could not be taken up due to
three reasons viz. for accommodating the thrust vector control engine,
the rear portion of the fuselage needed to be entirely changed; entire
primary load structure required to be changed; and the canard which
gives super maneuverability in Sukhoi-30 MKI needed to be fitted
on a special structure in the fuselage. The Committee also note that
this matter has been examined in consultation with the DRDO, HAL
and the Air Force and thus the decision has been taken for the
swap deal meaning that a certain number of Sukhoi-30 aircraft will
be sent to Russia which will be replenished with MKI features. The
Committee further note that, keeping in view the multi role features
of the Sukhoi-30 MKI, negotiation for its procurement has been
signed under which 50 such aircraft have been imported and further
licenced production of 140 aircraft is already going on at HAL.
Nick,
Got any more info on this:
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