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  • in reply to: China might get Ukrainian Slava class cruiser #2067875
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    Refit with Moskit can be done quite fast, although I don’t the see the use of such a conversion. That 550km range of Bazalt really had its use… Closing to 130 or 250km would just be too dangerous.
    As for mounting that extra radar, solutions can be found for that. Power requirement, with the loss of the huge Bazalt weight, you have enough spare bouyancy to mount some extra auxiliary engines (generators). The model of the SLava with the Tombstone was there in 2003 too. Maybe they plan to replace the Top Dome with the Tomb Stone.
    Also, a Tomb Stone would probably be less space requiring than the Top Dome, hence it might be capable of being fitted somewhere upfront.
    I agree on the time it would take, but what’s half a year? Doesn’t matter too much, ships have a life of 20-40 years. Depending on what you’re doing with them πŸ™‚
    I found the picture, well at leas the link, but it was inactive. I’ll have to ask around whether someone downloaded the picture… πŸ™

    in reply to: Brahmos #2054994
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    hmm, why do you think Russians are proceeding with Yakhont? I don’t think they’ll officially take Brahmos into service. I think the Brahmos venture was just to make sure no one could comment on the sale of the Yakhont and the technology of it. They’re planning to upgrade their own Tu-22M3 bombers for Yakhont and not for Brahmos. I suppose they want to have their own little secrets in it. Probably taking some of the Indian Brahmos technology themselves. Yakhont is also better for Export, for Brahmos they need Indian cooperation and I don’t think India would agree on the sale of Brahmos to China πŸ˜‰

    in reply to: Amur class submarine can be extended to fire Brahmos #2067899
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    Well I don’t have pictures of those models, but in the meanwhile I’d say enjoy this:
    The launch of the first Lada/Amur (some time ago) it was commissioned yesterday:
    http://www.phototass.ru/images/photo/2/d209/370.JPG
    http://www.phototass.ru/images/photo/2/d209/388.JPG
    http://www.vesti.ru/p/b_81416.jpg
    http://www.vesti.ru/p/b_81437.jpg
    http://www.vesti.ru/p/b_81434.jpg
    http://www.vesti.ru/p/b_81435.jpg

    note the small stabilizers on the tail. Which Akula do you mean Blackcat? Schchuka-B? or the Typhoon SSBN? It seems most logical you are asking for Typhoon, so as for that, I don’t know. No one will probably know except for the designers. I think Garry gave some good possible reasons and maybe we should be looking in that direction for the “true” answer too. But indeed it’s easier to steer from that place ON A SURFACE VESSEL. I think submarines aren’t steered by sight(never saw a helmsman at a wheel on top of a conning tower), hence all the helmsman has to do is follow the orders.
    I think the balancing might be the good point. The center of Floatation (center of longitudinal stability) might be oddly placed on this submarine. We don’t know the weight of the reactors, but I suppose the weird shape of Typhoon might indeed cause this center of floatation to be oddly placed, hence the reactors might have indeed caused a problem… Not sure though. I think twenty of those huge missiles just to counter the weight of those two reactors would be a bit exaggerated.

    in reply to: China emerges as a maritime power #2067903
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    Hmm, I’m not sure about your: “just floating Target” statement for Varyag… It can mount a huge amount of SAMs, the Kuznetsov has 300+ SAMs, + a battery of Granit missiles in the anti-ship role, I wouldn’t try to get too close to it. And don’t give me that Aegis ****, since all of the SAM launchers have their own seperate guidance radars, hence together they have a capability that might match Aegis (although I fairly admit they don’t have the long-range detection capability of the SPY-1D). But saturating its defences will nonetheless be quite hard. Of course Varyag hasn’t received any of these, but I think China might be capable of using the design. Depends on what their carrier strategy will be… US one or Russian one…

    in reply to: US Navy to hire Gotland-class submarine? #2068046
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    That is old news and a lot more is known about this possible deal. Including price and that it would go to the Pacific fleet for practice.

    in reply to: Are Submarines Obsolete? #2068068
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    The submarine is the most leathal weapon of all, untill the oceans become transparent that is…
    I suppose that Special Technology is LIDAR? I’ve seen tests of it. It was used to draw the bottom of a river in that particular test. It could do the 3-hour work of a Sonar within a few minutes. And of course doesn’t have trouble with all the waterconditions and flow noise. But apparently, in that same test, the water better isn’t muddy or the thing doesn’t work anymore. Same with plants and huge amounts of plankton etc…
    Oh, btw LIDAR means Light Detection and Ranging, same technology as SONAR but using light waves instead of Sound Waves. Haven’t followed that technology or at least found little result back then. It was used from a helo in that test…

    in reply to: Inside one of the many pathetic rusty bucket??? #2068088
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    Never mess with or call people/nationalities stupid when you don’t know them. Although I admit our navy is pathetic and soon probably non-existent…

    in reply to: China might get Ukrainian Slava class cruiser #2068090
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    Well, I suppose China could mount a huge battery of Supersonic Missiles of their own on it. Or C-803… Or even give it a larger AD potential by putting their bought S300F(M?) missiles on it… With an extra radar in front, this could be a good ship for fleet AD. The age and progress worries me a bit though. I saw a picture of her, yes yes I’ll look to post it here. Not so long ago and she looked quite bad…

    in reply to: Amur class submarine can be extended to fire Brahmos #2068105
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    Gary, the tanker and merchant acommodations are not placed there for the sailing. I admit it’s easier to steer a ship from there, but the true reason for that placing is: They’re merchant ships. Basically a merchant ship has holds, if you put an accomodation on the ship, the hold below is not easily accesable, for example with bulkcarriers. Therefor, they look for a space inside the hull that is not usable, namely the engineroom. So, when they place the accomodation on top of the engineroom they have the largest accessability of holds, more safety (no accomodation on top your tanks for tankers, no pipelines having to go through or around your accomodation also for tankers), hence best use of the hull and on top of that, it makes it cheaper, because you evade costs of extra pipelines and your funnel can be placed on top of your engineroom, avoids extra costs again.

    For Typhoon, that Ice argument might indeed be correct. It has an enforced bow and I suppose they just come with their bow first through the ice, creating a whole and smaching upon the ice, hence if your sail would be in front, it might hit the ice. Now, with the sail in the back, it might just come through the hole, while the bow makes the space to come through.
    Compartments? Don’t know.
    The mounting of the weapons of Papa, Charlie etc. is easily explanable by the fact that their VLS modules are mounted under an anlge, if you put it behind your sail, the missile will hit the sail when launched :$

    in reply to: Inside one of the many pathetic rusty bucket??? #2068107
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    http://www.esa.int/export/images/vittori01835_200.jpg
    http://www.urania.be/dewinne/frimout.jpg
    Frank De Winne and Dirk Frimout, both Belgian astronauts, first one flew in a Soyuz to ISS and the latter went with e Space Shuttle.
    http://www.verhaert.com/VDD/sat_plat/inhoud_sp/small_sat.htm
    Belgian Satellite building company.
    And one of our recently upgraded old buckets, on which I sailed:
    Oh No, someone attacked our frigate with a nuke… But she survived πŸ™‚
    She’s for sale, anyone interested? Just upgraded…

    in reply to: Amur class submarine can be extended to fire Brahmos #2068188
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    It’s some kind of Russian habit to put all the weapons in front, same with Talwar, Kirov class, Typhoon SSBN… It’s a weird habit though πŸ˜€
    Anyway, the US LAI SSN have their VLS inserted in front too (this also eliminated the slight Trim of the early LA class SSNs, because these were designed with space for such a VLS insertion). I think it gives a better field of fire, not to damage the sail.
    I think the Hatches on the Typhoon SSBN, are as high as Amur’s SAIL… Not equal in size with the hatches of this Amur model.
    Anyway, the real name of Typhoon is indeed Akula, yet the real name of Akula is Shchuka-B and not Bars. Bars is one of the units (K480)and hence they have called it the Bars class. Normally they pick the first of class, someone must have thought this was the first of class…

    As for placing the AIP inside, the Swedes have done it with the NΓ€cken class too. Just cut the thing in half and put the module in between.

    As for the AIP shift forward. It’s probably for stability. The aft part is angled inwards, if you would take a look from above you would see a “V-shaped” slice. This slice gives less upward force from the water. In short, if you put the heavy weight of a AIP in there, it will receive less carrying power, hence cause a trim and stress on your hull. You can of course play with that trim, but I’m not sure if you want your forward ballast tanks filled up half to keep your sub stable when you are in an emergency… They might have thought about having a heavier piece forward, like the Sonar and weapons and afterwards found out that it would be too light.

    in reply to: Inside one of the many pathetic rusty bucket??? #2068202
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    Ah Mr Wanshan wants to boast about his submarines… Well here’s ours:

    in reply to: Inside one of the many pathetic rusty bucket??? #2068209
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    Now, Mr Edison you have gone to far.
    Mr Wanshan did what you asked, he came up with some junk of his own. I don’t get your point of: “if you don’t have junk, you can’t call Chinese stuff Junk”. Basically everyone needs to have junk to call Chinese things junk? You live in an odd world…
    You pretty much did just about the same thing to Russia/Soviet Union now. You call it junk. You indeed have even more junk, aka Han and Xia class. So indeed you qualify to call Akula junk in your world.
    Yet this does not apply to the real world, wake up my friend…
    What counts here is whether you state something very logical or proven or not. You are stating rubbish and I don’t know of any Leaking Reactor incident on any Akula. If you do have any official or pseudo-official source for such thing, please post it then.
    Wanshan does have such sources about Shenzhou and Soyuz and his country does not need to build any Spaceship to allow him to say such things. And if he sees no use in his government wasting their money on such projects, I don’t think he should “force” his government to do so. If you wanted a spacerace, sorry you’re a couple of decades late for that.
    I’m not cracking jokes or wise cracker or whatever kind of language you are talking. I think this is very clear language to any person with even the very basic knowledge of English.

    in reply to: IN News and Discussion #2068233
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    Yes, because Gorshkov isn’t there yet. They’ll be probably used in Fleets. Not as a seperate unit. If not, it would be much better to have a Ka-28 on it. How many Ka-28s does IN currently have? Are there any additional ones on order?

    in reply to: IN News and Discussion #2068238
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    I expect that they have thought about that Steve, I know it has been stated to be a possible helicopter for Talwar, I think that won’t be the case. I suppose they’ll have them on Gorshkov. With multiple helicopters, it’s possible to keep a better sector guarded. There’s also the AS radar of the parent vessel and the fleet to scan for small low-flying incomers from unexpected angles.
    I also suppose it won’t really “stay on station”, I think it would rather stay mobile and fly in circles. Anyway, it would certainly be better to keep several up, since they’ll attract lots of enemy fighters…

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