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  • in reply to: Kuznetsov CVBG set out for an ocean training campaign #2069341
    Severodvinsk
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    Now that is most remarkable… I’m stunned.
    Thank you very very very much for these pictures.
    Are the pointed nose-one the depth charge carrying variants?
    Are you sure on your designations? If so, sorry to bother you with this question, it’s just to make sure I have the right info :dev2:
    http://www.mipagina.cantv.net/heeroyui2/RPK-6_3.jpg
    I’m a cross-eyed or does this one have a very weird nose? It looks like a missile inlet, like Granit and Brahmos’ …

    in reply to: Kuznetsov CVBG set out for an ocean training campaign #2069344
    Severodvinsk
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    Thanks Steve, I weren’t aware of this picture. WHere did you find that? That could indeed be Veter, it looks similar to the things in the picture. The ones in the picture could indeed be Veter too… It’s from Kursk and Kursk also had 4 650mm tubes. And there is of course the fact that they seem to be ready for launch on the lowest tubes(which iirc are the 650mm ones). Yet the torpedo next to it seems to be a 533mm one (unless they paint all their torpedoes on the same manner?). They can launch this weapon from a depth of 200m…

    in reply to: IN News and Discussion #2069347
    Severodvinsk
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    GRP hulls are much better than steel ones, the only minor points are that it need a very good protective coating to keep the hull in good shape, because it seems to “wear” quite easily and it’s vulnerable to certain chemicals, but that’s not a real problem when you know which ones. That’s all. Otherwise these hulls quite fine. And indeed Jonesy, that lesser propulsion is good for noise-reduction and of course for sustainability, the range will increase with the same amount of fuel.
    The SeaDragon is crap. Only sweeping and there are even cables you can’t cut, the cutting cable will just move through them. And of course these SeaDragons sometimes crash while doing this task. (on the looks they are one of my favorite helicopters, looks like a flying Tank 😮 )
    I think the SeaFox is from Atlas, it’s German for sure, but don’t know whether it’s Atlas or not…

    in reply to: IN News and Discussion #2069382
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    Mine-sweepers are a bit outdated, better buy some modern minehunters that can deal with both anchored mines and the more modern bottom mines (like the Manta). Such systems are being developed all over the world now, the best up till now probably being the German SeaFox system. Maybe India can buy some of these systems and place them on those minesweeper hulls.

    in reply to: So…. USS Starship Enterprishhh…. #2069461
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    Those are old pictures of Visby, when she was just launched. The newer ones reveal a bit less stealth, since now she has a mast mounted on the back of her bridge and some more antennae. Although I do think it makes her more “realistic” and even more good looking then before.

    in reply to: Kuznetsov CVBG set out for an ocean training campaign #2069509
    Severodvinsk
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    Only SS-N-15 would fit into its tubes… But now I suppose it’s not ASW for that reason. I expect that ASW status to come from its sonar suite, with the VDS and of course the helicopters. The SS-N-16 requires a 650mm tube.

    Looks as if I made a mistake here, there seem to be two missiles for each system, a 533mm and a 650mm version. The SS-N-15 seems to carry only a depth charge and the SS-N-16 seems to carry a torpedo. Here is what I think to be the first picture of Vodopad, the 533mm version of SS-N-16 with a 400mm torpedo on its top:
    http://www.aeronautics.ru/img/img004/kursk1002.jpg
    It doesn’t fit into the 533mm holder, judging from size, it looks like a 400mm diameter thing. In the back, you can see it’s getting wider to fit into the holder. I have a better picture of this weapon, where it’s easier to judge on this. Any ideas? Could I be right?

    I have indeed also seen all the contradictory information on SS-N-15 and SS-N-16 on FAS etc. stating what I stated before, yet this comes from a book from Norman Polmar… Can someone clarify? Who is wrong?

    in reply to: torpedos question #2069512
    Severodvinsk
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    Oh no he found his way over here too. It’s Andi Biochemicali.
    I posted this post in a different thread, but no one responded so here we go:
    DM2A4 integrated in the U212 design:

    The DM2A4
    Upgrade provides ‘mix-and-match’ torpedo

    Radical changes in the configuration of the STN Atlas DM2 (Deutsches Modell 2) — export name: Seehecht (Seahake) — torpedo family are now being offered as a further upgrade for this weapon or as a new-build weapon, writes E R Hooton. The DM 2A1 entered service in 1976 and, since 1980, STN Atlas has continually upgraded the design, exporting versions that retain the overall capability but lack certain sensitive features. The current production version for the German Navy and NATO is DM2A3.

    The latest version, DM2A4 — export designation Seahake Mod 4 — has been developed specifically for the German Navy’s Type 212 submarine programme and will enter service in about 2003. This retains the electrical propulsion of its predecessor, using new silver-zinc batteries with disc-shaped cells. These power a new 300kW high-frequency, permanent-magnet, synchronised motor with seven-phase stator and planetary gear. The motor has step-less speed changes and is more than 90% efficient. There is also a new fin and rudder design.

    The propulsion system is the key to the radical change planned for the DM2A4. In its standard configuration (length 6.6m), the weapon will have four batteries to achieve its maximum range of more than 27nm (50km) and a speed of some 50kt.

    There are four other variants, ranging in length from 5.9m down to 4.5m, but with fewer batteries. The M (Medium) version will have three batteries, giving a range of about 21nm (40km); the S (Short) two-battery version will have a range of about 16nm (30km); plus two single-battery versions. Of the latter, the VS (Very Short) version will have a range of about 10nm (17.5km). The maximum speeds of these weapons will range from 90% to 35% of the standard configuration weapon.

    On the DM2A4, the mechanical swivelling transducer array is replaced by a conformal sensor, with 38 staves (152 transducers) which produces pre-formed, wide-angle beams. Export weapons will have full digital-signal processing but German Navy weapons, which will be upgraded from the DM2A3, and will retain some analogue features. A fibre-optic wire with two-way communication will complete the guidance system.

    The weapon retains the 250kg hexagon/RDT/aluminium high-explosive warhead (equivalent to 460kg of TNT) with magnetic influence and contact fuzes, but with a wake sensor added to improve torpedo counter-countermeasures capabilities.

    The most unusual version of the DM2A4 is derived from the VS but with a wake-homing sensor. This weapon is designed specifically for use against merchant ships and is one of a package of DM2A4s sold to an unidentified NATO country.

    Growth potential has been built-in to the design with two stages scheduled by 2010 and another in the following decade, the latter as DM2A5 (Seahake Mod 5 for export). Plans also exist for a full-length Autonomous Underwater Vehicle version with a single battery (range up to 54nm [100km]) for use as an exercise target, for minefield reconnaissance and neutralisation using the Seafox system.

    From Jane’s.

    in reply to: So…. USS Starship Enterprishhh…. #2069514
    Severodvinsk
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    Someone’s stealing your boat Steve, cause that isn’t you in the back! I’m sure it ain’t you. You don’t get such arms of toggling on a keyboard 😀 You’ll have to wait for the Real Steve-in-his-boat picture till the weekend :diablo:
    As for Visby indeed that’s a nice one. Although I still don’t know what weapons it will carry (or does it already carry weapons? Except for that cannon I mean).

    in reply to: So…. USS Starship Enterprishhh…. #2069565
    Severodvinsk
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    Hmm, Jonesy why did you post that picture of my boat? I wanted to keep this a secret… Now, I’ll have to post a picture of your boat too…

    in reply to: China emerges as a maritime power #2069646
    Severodvinsk
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    Does that matter? Some presidents are good, some are bad… It all depends on that. Their navy has been “stationary” but now has received much more funding for new carriers, new destroyers etc. I suppose it’s not only maintaining such a Navy that indicates bad intentions… I suppose a build-up or large modernisation plan seems to indicate more. And what is China doing??? :diablo: :p

    in reply to: So…. USS Starship Enterprishhh…. #2069649
    Severodvinsk
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    That stealth really isn’t going to make it… Sorry to say that. There is no way a surface search radar can see further than 40miles or so. It is no problem to get close enough considering only this. Yet it will be the CAP planes and probably other assets seeing your small fleet. There is also something called Virginia, Los Angeles or Seawolf around that fleet. Considering your ship has waterjet propulsion, they might be spotted quite fast. The Stealth is not as good as it looks, your ship still has wake from here to Tokio, that’s what makes a ship more visible on radar. It can be dealth with by using planes and helos. They can even use the AH-1 SeaCobra (placed on their large LPD and LHD) for this task since your force only has the AK-630 up till now. CIWS? I haven’t seen any on this ship yet. SO you want to have your JH-7 and Su-30s have a 1,000km range-radar AND let them fight against the carrier force AND let them cooperate with your small ships… I think you’re going to need a couple very good people in there to develop such things and fight that battle.
    What Jonesy means with that radar problem is a) it doesn’t seem to support a radar strong enough to support these missiles and probably b) that radar wouldn’t be high enough as to have a believable radarhorizon. It should be noted that the US ships are also stealthy in a way and that they would probably detect you before you can detect them.
    There should of course be said that against a surface action group, without the Carrier support, this type of craft is extremely dangerous, this is something proven by the Norwegian exercises (MARVIKA) in which the US and NATO forces got beaten up quite badly by the German Gepard class and Norwegian Hauk class vessels. (together with their F-16s and excellent pilots, who as described by a US commander were the best he’d ever seen in the world, manuevering only a hundred meters from his bridgewing, simulating attacks). But it should also be noted that they were fighting in a fjord, having the huge cliffs as their radar cover (small vessels were unable to get discriminated from the background cliff return).

    in reply to: China emerges as a maritime power #2069651
    Severodvinsk
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    Hehe, my place is where something bad about China has to be said! 🙂 Just kidding. This forum goes too fast for me.
    So there we go. I honestly don’t think 516 was the only conversion. It might be a test, resulting in 20 such ships.
    Hmm I think the Taiwanese agression or willingness to retake the mainland was more of a US inspired action.
    As why US Navy keeps so many ships, indeed you have given the answer yourself. Who are they going to invade next? Afghanistan was number one, Iraq number two, I’m sure they won’t stick to that. If Bush gets re-elected I’m not sure whether North Korea or any other country he doesn’t like is still safe. They have indeed shown that their strong Navy wasn’t useles, now they can steal anyone’s oil and other important things. He’ll always find a reason to do so, justified or not. Who’s going to stop him? US’s money is finished too, a gap of 1.5billion USD in the Pentagon last year, hundreds of tanks, planes and missiles “missing”. They are going to pay for it anyway. If there really would be another arms race for them, they’d lose it (of course not in technological way, but in economic way).

    in reply to: So…. USS Starship Enterprishhh…. #2069688
    Severodvinsk
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    That’s no single barrel one, it’s the AK-630 in a new turret, it is also mounted on the new frigates. (not that this adds much to the combat value)

    in reply to: China emerges as a maritime power #2069699
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    The Russians did, long before it actually happened. The Communistic system has the major flaw of not being able to work when it is not applied in the entire world. If it is countered by any great power, it will fail, since it doesn’t allow to export or import too many things, this free flow of goods is necessary for one’s economy.

    China might have a growing economy, but that’s because it just was so low. You want to know why they consume more refrigirators and Televisions? Well how many people live in America? Now, how many live in China???? It’s quite logical if you ask me. And of course by mass producing you can lower the prices. But don’t be mistaken, if the West would say NO to your goods, it’s done with China, stagnation and fall. Of course the West won’t do that, it has made its mistakes a long time ago and can’t reverse it anymore.

    And of course on military level you have to be strong too. Jonesy and me might not have been able to make our point clear about the 10 UK SSNs, but I’m sure 40+ US SSNs can block every port in China. I think in a rather limited range, there is already an arms race. The way China directly ordered 8 Kilo’s when Taiwan announced its purchase of 8SSKs from US (I think two or three years ago) could be a proof of that. Also the US abandonning the ABM treaty and starting to do nuclear tests again…

    in reply to: Indian Submarine Competition #2069720
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    Well I SUPPOSE the problems were: stresses on the ship’s hull and of course the short range of this type of missiles. A few hundred kilometers is just too few to take the risk. They have to come within range of certain patrol forces and land-based aircraft. Quite a waste if you ask me.
    Maybe some other problems too…

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