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  • in reply to: New Russian Landing Ship #2063409
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    Here news (has torn off from an air base)
    At the Kaliningrad ship-building factory “Amber” the first up-to-date ship of the new project for the Navy of Russia today is incorporated. It is big landing ship (BDK) of ocean navigation of the project 11711.

    In particular, as the general director of the Neva design bureau (Saint Petersburg) Alexander Viglin has told, uniqueness new BDK will be, that it is capable to transport up to 40 units of military technics of various kinds, and landing of a sea landing to coast can be carried out with the help of a special bridge-pontoon.

    ” The need of Navy fleet of the Russian Federation for such ships equipped with the most perfect domestic technics, fully-automated, is very great “, – has noticed Viglin. On it informs IТАR-TASS.

    New series BDK will consist of 5 ships, two of them, total cost 5 billion roubles, will construct at the Kaliningrad factory “Amber”. Construction of the head ship will borrow 3.5 – 4 years, and the subsequent, in view of turned out in Practice, – 1.5 – 2 years. Displacement of the BDK (large landing ship) – 6 thousand tons. The big landing ships did not pawn 15 years in Russia.

    A translation form Russian. “Amber” means the Yantar shipyard.
    I don’t see the need for any russian Landing ships if they intend to do coastal defense only… At this moment they do have the capabilities to escor these landing forces, but in the near future, when they’ll be equiping their navy with frigates and corvettes, their only use will be landing on their own coast, of which I cannot see the use at the moment, not even in Chechnya.

    in reply to: Scorpion Class patrol boats.. #2063413
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    Wanshan, as I said, I didn’t post the Talwar model picture! You all know what it looks like and I don’t want to overload my piece of modelwarships.com!
    Gary, that certainly isn’t a VLS Yezh launcher, the ships doesn’t have any Orekh guidance radar for that missile and the large radome on top of the bridge makes me suggest its a guidance radar (Garpun?) for Klub or maybe even Yakhont. About the same VLS as the Talwar’s!
    These are indeed export intended ships, since they were displayed at IMDS2003, which is a “market” for getting export contracts.
    AK-630 is very cheap, but has become less effective in the current days. The Bass Tilt radar can do both searching and tracking, but can only track 1 single target, so with one radar and two gun mounts it can still only attack one missile… Kashtan is of course better, because of its dual layered defense, but is of course much more space consuming and more importantly much more expensive!

    Neustrashimiy doesn’t carry Uran, the second in class, Yaroslavl Mudry, meant to be commissioned in 2005 was supposed to have Uran, but in the first unit there was no guidance radar for it on the original design and I suppose they’ll have some trouble putting it somewhere too. On top of the Bridge, they’ll have to relocate the Kite Screetch and put some extra platform on it. Then they have to be sure not to get any intereference… Don’t know if they have taken the effort.

    in reply to: Scorpion Class patrol boats.. #2063553
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    This is the last one, since I suppose you all know the Talwar class ;).
    http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/Neptune/HeloAKcorvette.JPG
    Tonages are given in the lower right corner, so you’re capable to compare their sizes!
    I won’t keep the pictures up for long since I don’t want to overload and abuse the http://www.modelwarships.com site for this!

    in reply to: Scorpion Class patrol boats.. #2063560
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    http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/Neptune/Helicoptercorvette.JPG
    Again with many thanks to Guy Toremans! This is a larger version, it likely has a towed array of some kind, two Kashtans, helicopter (and maybe torpedo tubes in that hatch?) and of course a main gun. There is a third one, with helicopter, torpedo tubes, two AK-630s and an 8-cell VLS, for Klub I think and a hull mounted sonar.The largest one in these series is the Talwar design.

    in reply to: Scorpion Class patrol boats.. #2063577
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    No, there is only one version of AK-630 with missiles, Vikhr anti-tank missiles… The differences of Kashtan is just Kashtan-1 is the original version with radar and laser guidance. The Kashtan-M has electro-optical (and IR?) guidance.
    Indeed two Kashtans on such a small vessel is a bit overrated I think… Or this isn’t the Skorpion model… I’ll take a look at the other models in the collection!

    in reply to: Scorpion Class patrol boats.. #2063593
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    Yes they do… Picture of Nakat has shown that already. So, it would indeed not be impossible to have the Uran launchers exchanged for Yakhont ones.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2063618
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    ? what do you mean? That simply isn’t Gorshkov, as for the pictures I posted, it was called Baku (in USSR days, to fit into the series of big cities: Kiev, Minsk, Novorosiysk and Baku)before it was renamed Admiral Gorshkov in the “new” Russian Navy.
    As for your source, sometimes Venik’s a good source, but sometimes he really is wrong too, if you look at the drawing he posted in the Tarantul section, you’ll notice it’s a Nanuchka corvette…

    in reply to: Scorpion Class patrol boats.. #2063621
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    http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/Neptune/Skorpion.JPG
    Seems to carry Uran though… Picture Courtesy of Guy Toremans, taken at IMDS2003, so this one is likely to be an export version?
    Note the waterjet propulsion, which is also used in the larger version with helicopter.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2063633
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    ANd here a better pic of 12 of her VLS Kinzhal launchers, and also the Bazalt launchers, with presumably a loading rack behind/in front of the launcher:
    http://www.steelnavy.com/images/Red%20Banner%20Northern%20Fleet/GORSHKOV%20CVHG%2023a.jpg

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya (ex-Gorshkov) #2063640
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    That’s not Goshkov, it’s probably Kiev… Gorskov had a completely different weapons fit…
    http://www.steelnavy.com/images/Red%20Banner%20Northern%20Fleet/GORSHKOV%20CVHG%2002a70v.jpg
    http://www.steelnavy.com/images/Red%20Banner%20Northern%20Fleet/GORSHKOV%20CVHG%2015a.jpg
    Now that’s Gorshkov!

    in reply to: Stealth Ships #2063653
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    Yeah I have a picture of it I think…

    in reply to: PLAN Thread (Pics, news, speculations…everything) #2063700
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    And what questions would be solved by that? That it has a port anchor?
    What is quite weird, is that we got some pics of the two LPG-tankers next to it, but no one seems to have noticed these were being built in that very same yard! Or was it built somewhere else and towed there for outfitting? And if it was built in this yard, wouldn’t there be any 114 in that yard somewhere?
    Hydropod, Burkes didn’t have a Hangar at first, only refueling station I think. But now they have altered that too. For China, it is most important to get more ships with helicopters, so why bother building another desing without those facilities.
    The measurement. Maybe this hangar is optimized for Z-9, which is probably quite a bit lower than Ka-28…
    I agree with Wanshan that it might be just a slightly modified Shenzhen with just some things changed and upgraded, with Type730 CIWS and HQ-7. The SSM load is a mistery though, the spaces where the current SSMs are located are occupied by small accomodation parts.
    Maybe the new missile, like the one on Type52C?

    in reply to: Stealth Ships #2063729
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    Legolas, that is the reason why they have “Low Probability of Intercept radars”. These are surface search radars that change frequency often and the signals are not really discovered by a Radar warning receiver.
    It is not the purpose of “hiding” the entire vessel, it is the purpose of confusing the other’s radar and not only that, it’s more directed against missiles. If a missile gets signals coming from different angles and signals that are not continious, it won’t really know where the target is, and it will be more likely to explode on the wrong place or take the wrong action.

    in reply to: Indian Navy – News and Discussion #2063742
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    Vaiar, who keeps you from making it more active? I used to do that, but sometimes you start realising it’s useless, since some members left and then it dies down again. At this moment I don’t have the courage to give it another try. (add to that that we have some internal trouble).
    Anyway, for Jonesy’s question, I had that very same question. Although I suppose USN can get all their aircraft in the hangar if necessary too. For Gorshkov, I think it shouldn’t be done. If the planes are in this small place, I think it should be necessary to have 6 of them parked on the deck, that would make it possible to move the planes in the hangar, which is quite unlikely if the hangar is full of planes. Also, if they only bought 16 MiGs, then it would be normal to keep some stationed on land, for practice and maintenance/upgrade/testing.

    in reply to: Indian Navy – News and Discussion #2063825
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    Well since the thread on Gorshkov is closed, here’s a drawing for Vayar. He didn’t know whether that hangar configuration was right, here’s the answer: This is made by Ivan Zajac, member of the Acig.org forum!
    http://www.warshipmodels.com/~users/Neptune/Gorshkov%20hangar.jpg
    My opinion on it, is that they’ll probably lengthen the hangar towards the front (duuuh) and by that way add a few spaces more. Also, given the fact that India bought only 16 MiGs, makes me suggest they’ll embark only 10 of them, leaving the other spaces for Helicopters like the Ka-31 AEW.

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