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  • in reply to: Russian Navy Status #2065128
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    Admiral Shaposhnikov also made a cruise together with a Dubna class cruiser to Pearl Harbour (in january I think)

    in reply to: Boilers for INS Gorshkov #2065146
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    basically, there’s little to add to Blackcat’s explanation. It’s a simple and good explanation he did.
    On merchant ships, we use Heavy Fuel Oil. This oil requires a temperature of about 30°C minimum to be stored, then it goes to a other tank and is heated to 40°C (because otherwise the stuff is not really liquid and can’t be used for propulsion), from that tank, it is pumped to the engine. For keeping this oil at this temperature we use a boiler. That boiler uses water, heated by the exhaust of the engine. Therefor we keep the engine running all the time, even in port. ( we also do that because otherwise the engine cools down and when it comes somewhere near 30°C, it would start leaking etc, because the parts would shrink and the engine would be totally wasted, hence the engine is kept at about 75°C.)
    We also use diesel fuel, but that is only used in port, because it allows for a quicker increase and decrease in RPM. It’s for manoeuvering. (basically, a large ship carries about 2,800ts of HFO (Heavy Fuel Oil) and 700ts of Diesel.
    HFO is very cheap, hence for merchants.
    Diesel on the other hand is very expensive, but for warships, who do manoeuvers all the time, it is used more.
    Gas Turbines are usefull, but use a lot of fuel…
    A turbine is based on the principle of “labour” done by a gas or steam. This labour, depends on the change of volume and the pressure. dW=p x dV. So, when the volume (V) increases, the labour (W) will increase. A turbine is cone shaped, the gas/steam is blown in the narrow part and goes to the larger diameter part, hence expands, volume increase, increase of labour. This labour is used, because the “cone” is filled with many rows of “propellor” blades. The gas will make these blades turn, they are connected to a gearbox and then to the shaft.
    They allow for great performance, but as said are expensive, complicated and use a lot of fuel. For warships this is ok, but for merchants it isn’t…

    To generate the gas or steam, the boiler is used.
    This is a drawing of a boiler, which I made to explain (well at least tried to) the principle of free circulation for a nuclear plant to someone. This is the operation of a boiler, as you can see, it’s a free circulation of the water.
    The pipe on top, where the water vapor goes out, goes to a superheater, which will add some more heat to the vapor. Then it is fed where you need it, be it your pipes to keep the HFO hot in your double bottom, or your steam turbine.

    in reply to: SLCMs for the Sierra II and Akula? #2065151
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    And why exactly would they do that? If you want to put 20 Granit silos in a sub, you inevitable end up with an Oscar sized beast! The Akula is quite “full” at the moment, your shifts would inevitably increase the size of the submarine. Shifting back the torpedo tubes would also mean a huge decrease of the amount of torpedo tubes. From 14 to 4… A submarine like the Oscars is what they don’t need at the moment. The Akula’s can be much more deadly than the Oscar against a CVBG, since torpedoes are much more deadly than missiles and much harder to counter. It is also much more silent than the Oscar, hence can get closer. The SLCMs where we are talking about at this moment is the Granat, a land-attack missile. For anti-ship purposes, it would be too slow and too lightly armed.

    in reply to: SLCMs for the Sierra II and Akula? #2065174
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    of course I don’t remember it since I never saw it. I don’t come out of the Navy sections. I do have a model 1/144 of the cruisemissile… (sublaunched version). And I ‘m indeed no airman, when you hit a plane with a missile, 99% will go down. If you hit a ship with a missile… It’ll stay afloat and at least give part of the crew chance to escape. Plane’s are for sissies, if they run out of fuel, they go down, for a ship, that’s a different story. 😉 OK, now I’ll stay quiet and look for all the flaming that’s going to come from the AF guys 😀

    in reply to: "The Mightiest" (P.Velikiy) #2065184
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    Two Bora class are in service, both with the Black Sea fleet IIRC. Skorpion still has to be built…

    in reply to: SLCMs for the Sierra II and Akula? #2065195
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    Russia doesn’t need such weapons at the moment. If they indeed succeed quite cheaply in adapting any of the new cruise missiles you mention for Submarine use, then they should do it. But otherwise, if they really have to invest too much money, I don’t think it’s worth the effort. I’d first like to see these submarines sailing instead of arming them with cruisemissiles to lay in port.
    Is the AF indeed getting those new missiles now? It’s been mentioned for some years now, but haven’t seen any of that…

    in reply to: VLed Shtils under development #2052058
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    Blackcat it’s just a joke/assumption. It never happened with a Sovremenny. If I’m not mistaken it’s Admiral Ushakov (Ex-Beshstrashniy), which IIRC still had her single-arm Shtil-launcher on the exercise this summer. And this picture looks a lot older than last summer….

    in reply to: Argentine warship fires on Brazil ship #2065311
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    Doesn’t look nice does it? They practically disabled the ship. The guidance radar (for SeaWolf) seems to be completely wasted, so is the SeaWolf launcher… They should be lucky that nothing really blew up!

    in reply to: "The Mightiest" (P.Velikiy) #2065361
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    thanks.
    Also belonging to the units that are “fitted-for-but-not-with” are the modified KrivakI frigates Pylkiy and Legkiy. They are fitted for but not with the Uran system. The racks are on the place where normally the RBU launchers are mounted. But the missiles are somewhere in hangar I suppose…
    Something I never quite gotten to understand is their very spread use of certain weapons and ships. Wouldn’t it be smarter to get rid of Smetliviy? She’s the only one using Uran, together with Tartarstan and also the only one still using SA-N-3 missiles (if she has any). If she doesn’t have the SAMs anymore, why keep her? That’s 330 persons that work on a totally obsolete and useless ship. Better to get rid of her.
    Also the use of certain weapons that is so spread… If Smetliviy is kept, why not place her in the Baltic fleet, same with Tartarstan, then they would at least have four ships that are equiped with Uran, all together, no trouble sending these missiles all over the country. Same with Slava class cruisers. They are the only ships using Bazalt, why not place them all in the Pacific fleet, as a measure to strengthen that fleet in face of China and to keep the weapons together. Same with crews, they could swap crews among the Slava cruisers, having more people that are very specialised in these ships!
    Their economics in the Navy really suck. (even more than in my Navy, which sells a frigate for €23million after upgrading it for €35million)

    in reply to: Stealth Ships #2065367
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    Yes, brass is a very good condutor, hence it will return radarwaves better than certain other materials. I think it was the purpose to have a slightly overrated result and maybe it was more clear where the bad constructed (the RCS increasing- parts were by using Brass… Don’t know, hence I’ll have a better look at that book and the explanation again. I only read the comment with the picture, maybe there’s more info in the text itself.

    in reply to: Stealth Ships #2065374
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    That was indeed Mendelyev, he didn’t invent atoms, but predected some… Some elements he filled in following the logics of his table, at that moment, these elements weren’t found or discovered yet. Now they are, and it seems he was completely right with his predictions…

    I checked the RCS tests of ships in a “Shipboard Electromagnetics” book at school. I found a nice Brass model of a Ticonderoga, which they used to measure RCS. So, They likely use such models to test the raw RCS, without applying RAM or anything else. Afterwards, they maybe used RAM coating to see what that would do…

    in reply to: General Discussion #399236
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    I have a whole bunch of them. I don’t have any on a single forum, only on all the different forums I pay a visit to. That’s about 6 or more of them. Some I’m not active anymore though.

    in reply to: "The Mightiest" (P.Velikiy) #2065470
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    Could be there to avoid interference with Tombstone? They have a lot of electronic stuff on that funnel…

    in reply to: PLAN Thread (Pics, news, speculations…everything) #2065486
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    http://zone.sousmarins.free.fr/scorpene-a-leau-grd.jpg
    http://zone.sousmarins.free.fr/scorpene4.jpg
    Now we know why there was no slipway in the area, look at the fences around the conning tower and the bar along the lower hull where the fences support on

    http://zone.sousmarins.free.fr/scorpene-GRD.jpg
    The torpedo tube layout, which also fits. Of course, who would put a sub like that? The FRENCHIES, I could have known that :p .

    That’s why it looked so small, it’s only the forward part of the sub… You can count the supports on the hull… And of course in the other picture you see it’s built in two parts.
    So, I’m sorry guys, this is NOT Yuan.

    in reply to: PLAN Thread (Pics, news, speculations…everything) #2065488
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    Yeah, after viewing a picture in my magazines, I’m almost sure it’s a Scorpene!!! does have equal windows, top and black “rectangular holes” in the sail. It’s a picture of O’higgins for Chile I’m watching.

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