kelticSome sources are showing unconfirmed figures of 20 casualties
kelticMore news coming in.
-left engine confirmed….we don´t know if it has been an explosion or simply a fire.
-Mayor and goverment officials travelling to the airport.
-Civil aviation experts are already in the crash site.
-Spanair initial official reports confirms, that it´s one of their planes. No details about figures.
-Relatives are being gathered in the airport.
-Hospitals are on alert.
Why it´s take so much time in confirming things?.
kelticIt wasn´t able to take off. Fifty passengers are being treated on the runway, and the latest is that the plane split in two, and the back is burning.
kelticI have talked to my cousin who is a flight attendant, and works in MAD: Her offices are close to the runway. She has seens everthing. Climbing, explosion and falling down again.
We are being quite pessimist about the result. I am so sad.
kelticAmbulances are rushing from Madrid hospitals to the airport. Left engine has exploded. Still confusing.
Crash happened at 2:28 Spanish time. All flights have been cancelled so far.
They are reporting about some passengers killed 🙁 MAD airport firefighters source.
kelticPassengers are being treated on the runway. Runways are closed. 160 passengers onboard.
kelticIt seems a MD82….old one. Explosion in one engine on take off. Survivors, but the report says that there are fatalities.
kelticI would have paid a fortune for hearing what MS Rice told the Georgian president in private. I am sure, something like….”stop embarrasing the west”. I am sure of that. The good thing of this, as a possitive mind like mine, is that people learn from this. As as in all air crashes, additional meassures are to be taken to prevent it happen again.
I know all have learnt lessons. Only I wish we were more critical to our politicians. We pay them to solve problems, not to creat them.. If they are not able to…..we should take action.
Unfortunately it has left devastation and death. Haven´t we learnt anything from nacionalism and war in former Yugoslavia?. We know it over here. We have always strong language flying over in Spain about it.
kelticI would have paid a fortune for hearing what MS Rice told the Georgian president in private. I am sure, something like….”stop embarrasing the west”. I am sure of that. The good thing of this, as a possitive mind like mine, is that people learn from this. As as in all air crashes, additional meassures are to be taken to prevent it happen again.
I know all have learnt lessons. Only I wish we were more critical to our politicians. We pay them to solve problems, not to creat them.. If they are not able to…..we should take action.
Unfortunately it has left devastation and death. Haven´t we learnt anything from nacionalism and war in former Yugoslavia?. We know it over here. We have always strong language flying over in Spain about it.
kelticoppps, I had forgotten the summary. I know it has been too long. Nothing to do with a Cold War, these inflamatory language is simply for internal consumption in both sides.
Both know there´s a War on Terror going on………Alqaida may be very pleased of this. The people shouldn´t forget it.
kelticoppps, I had forgotten the summary. I know it has been too long. Nothing to do with a Cold War, these inflamatory language is simply for internal consumption in both sides.
Both know there´s a War on Terror going on………Alqaida may be very pleased of this. The people shouldn´t forget it.
kelticI don´t usually participate in politics, but I want to give my oppinion too. I hope nobody misunderstands it. In general terms, I wonder why Kosovo can be independent just because most people there want it, and the Ossetians and Abjazians can´t. If Scotland calls for independence will the UK allow it?. Or even us with the basque people?. I wonder why someone so extreme as the Georgian president should be supported,only because he has been elected by the people. Democracies can´t make ilegitimete things. I wonder why someone could be so irresponsible.
If a mouse lives next to a bear…..the clever thing is not to bite the bear toes. And I wonder why the west has supported a guy who has only has had hard talk with the russians, and started two military adventures in two areas which are not clear should be part of Georgia.
Russians have probably used disproportional force, but as many others in other conflicts. I feel that we stay in the surface. And the main problem is the weakness of Europe of not having a strong and independent defense policy (with or without the UK), which could tell US administrations like the current one……….NO, we don´t support your involvement in our backyard. We don´t need inflamatory tone, no cold war, no Missile Shield….
The strategy is clear. Russians and the EU relations is a priority for Brussels and there have never been that good, even now. Europe needs Russia, Russia needs Europe in economic, political, and so on terms. Russia need selling petrol in Europe, needs Europe in technology terms, and needs us as a ballance and mediator with the US. Russian is part of Europe (at least in many ares of the territory), we have shared a common history (good an bad), so I wouldn´t even rule Russia having closer links with Europe (within or not the EU).
So America feels envious and will make their very best to split this marriage. First creating a split about the Shield, then with this events, and usually using the UK, Poland and other states to create troubles within the NATO. It´s my prespective. Georgia is not important, is simple a huge diplomatic game of influence and power. Nobody is going to give a damm for Georgian president, who I expect to be kicked in the next elections.
I hope, we should be more active in that. I do think the US are friends, allies, but not more than the Russians which have been perpetually cornered after the end of the cold war. Why don´t we try to understand them?. Sorry Americans, I think you should kick this administration as soon as possible and have a more constructive approach to the Russian-European reality. No america bashing at all, but of course in this case public oppinion and media should be more critical with this administration.
I hope I hadn´t offended anyone.
kelticI don´t usually participate in politics, but I want to give my oppinion too. I hope nobody misunderstands it. In general terms, I wonder why Kosovo can be independent just because most people there want it, and the Ossetians and Abjazians can´t. If Scotland calls for independence will the UK allow it?. Or even us with the basque people?. I wonder why someone so extreme as the Georgian president should be supported,only because he has been elected by the people. Democracies can´t make ilegitimete things. I wonder why someone could be so irresponsible.
If a mouse lives next to a bear…..the clever thing is not to bite the bear toes. And I wonder why the west has supported a guy who has only has had hard talk with the russians, and started two military adventures in two areas which are not clear should be part of Georgia.
Russians have probably used disproportional force, but as many others in other conflicts. I feel that we stay in the surface. And the main problem is the weakness of Europe of not having a strong and independent defense policy (with or without the UK), which could tell US administrations like the current one……….NO, we don´t support your involvement in our backyard. We don´t need inflamatory tone, no cold war, no Missile Shield….
The strategy is clear. Russians and the EU relations is a priority for Brussels and there have never been that good, even now. Europe needs Russia, Russia needs Europe in economic, political, and so on terms. Russia need selling petrol in Europe, needs Europe in technology terms, and needs us as a ballance and mediator with the US. Russian is part of Europe (at least in many ares of the territory), we have shared a common history (good an bad), so I wouldn´t even rule Russia having closer links with Europe (within or not the EU).
So America feels envious and will make their very best to split this marriage. First creating a split about the Shield, then with this events, and usually using the UK, Poland and other states to create troubles within the NATO. It´s my prespective. Georgia is not important, is simple a huge diplomatic game of influence and power. Nobody is going to give a damm for Georgian president, who I expect to be kicked in the next elections.
I hope, we should be more active in that. I do think the US are friends, allies, but not more than the Russians which have been perpetually cornered after the end of the cold war. Why don´t we try to understand them?. Sorry Americans, I think you should kick this administration as soon as possible and have a more constructive approach to the Russian-European reality. No america bashing at all, but of course in this case public oppinion and media should be more critical with this administration.
I hope I hadn´t offended anyone.
keltichttp://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080729/tuk-ba-to-merge-with-spanish-airline-6323e80.html
still need to be confirmed by shareholders mind,
well, i actually didnt know talks we’re going on,
so this was news to me!Jon 🙂
What a pity……more monopoly on the Spain-UK routes. The world´s favourite airline (and my favourite), with my worst nightmare (under the same roof) 🙁
Bad idea for the consumers. Let´s hope this derails. I´ll keep my fingers crossed. :dev2:
kelticSome sould be added: Cusco in Perú, San Martin de los Andes and Ushuaia in Argentina, Tegucigalpa and Quito. I would add: San Sebastian in the Basque Country (Spain), Bilbao and Melilla.
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