inferior!!!!! I hope you are not using the expression ethincally here

If you read the opening sentence, it should be pretty obvious: “a matter of individual plane or pilot superiority.”

or else 😡 .

Or else, habibi? Gotta love such macho statements 😀 . Don’t worry: most Zionists are slightly smarter than making statements this dumb. 😀 😀 😀

There we go again. They can’t possibly beat us, they HAD to be helped

How can you state that Americans have not been involved with their U-2/SR-71 reccon a/c there in 1982 conflict ?

There is no need to invent a US intervention to explain how that campaign happened:
– recce UAVs (Scout/Mastiff/etc) to locate the batteries;
– bait UAVs to get the radars fixed;
– then open up with everything (arty + ARMs + guided bombs + etc) on the radars;
– then blast the AA assets;
– then provoke them into air battle and spank them big time. 😀

Again, there is no need to invent an intervention by the US, Klingon, or anyone, to explain how that campaign developped. The only “reason” for inventing an outside intervention is the Arabs’ reluctance to admit their defeats. Same thing with some Egyptians inventing a US tank exped force in ’67.

Regarding Israeli UAV’s, it is true that Americans procured your UAV’s, but these were, as you know, small tactical reccon drones, which had nothing in common with strategic reccon aircraft like SR-71.

Yes indeed. And locating AA batteries in a valley is a tac role, not a strategic one.

BTW, it may be comforting for Arab egos to think that the US would share intel with Israel to help an IDF attack, but reality is that the US would rather try to prevent Tshl from retaliating. In fact the US are most of the time displeased when the IDF dishes it back to the Arabs.

You surely know that IAF did not dare to attack Syrian positions with manned aircraft. It was too dangerous because SAM-6 and SAM-8 radars were unjammable.

LOL, what a macho statement worthy of Rambo 😀 😀 😀 !
“did not dare”, “unjammable” 😀 😀 😀
What I know is that the IDF does not endanger the life of its soldiers and pilots if there is an other way.

Regarding pictures, I will soon present them here.

O boy. And the whole world will then realize their folly and see the one and only light.
Look, you are not a relative of Kfadrat, by any chance? :confused:
If and when you do have pictures to post, I’ll be very interested to assess them. Until then, given the ramboistic nature of your posts, I think I’ll pass. Sorry. 😮

In 1973 war there were cases that Israelis claimed that their planes has been downed by AAA fire but Egyptians and Syrians have presented gun camera pictures depicting those same Israeli planes in flames !!!

Yes? I’d be curious to see such a picture! where someone can id that it is the same plane 😮
any url? 😀

Regarding 1982 war, Israelis did not have U-2 but americans did. SR-71 was also involved.

My, my, my. You must have really access to priviledged information.

And this involvement of U-2/SR-71s explains why the US armed services frantically procured Israeli UAVs right after this? 😀 :diablo:

The slipery slope…

what is wrong with people who believe in Christianity?

Hmmm? What is wrong with people who harbour one variety of supernatural beliefs rather than the other?
Nothing more than with the people who believe in Rudolf the red-nosed reindeer.
Nothing less, unfortunately.

Ah, yes, maybe. The religious believers of the various persuasions have been responsible for the vast majority of organised murders throughout human history.

But that’s hardly a “wrong”, is it?
😀 😀 😀

As long as it’s OK with God, it CAN’T be wrong.
:diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

Probably ment that the only country besides the US and UK(due to diego gracia) capable of basing aircraft carriers in that region.The French dont have a base there.

Mmmhhh. Interesting.
Try looking up “Reunion Island”, someday, if you’re ever fed up with the taste of your foot in your mouth.
:diablo: :diablo: 😀 😀

I’m pretty sure the majority of Fishbeds were actually Indonesian, but it’s not an easy topic to confirm concrete details for! 😉

Are we talking about the same period?
Israel supplied Mig-21s to the USAF in the late 60s / early 70s.
I’m not aware of the Indonesian deal, but I’d expect it to be later?

Q: Which is the most advanced version of Mig-21/F/J series ? In terms of Avionics and Manoeuvrebelity? (mind the spellings incase they’re wrong)

If you really really want to know, the most advanced version are the ones produced by Elbit and IAI.
😀 😀 😀 :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:

There’s more than this!

Aren’t you forgetting a few countries? 😀 😀 😀

Introducing the famous “007”. :diablo:

(at least the museum version of it. It is not the original plane to bear this registration, which was ex-Iraqi. The example now exhibited at Hatzerim is another of the captured MiG-21s, one of the former Algerian captures IIRC.)