Just saw some new pics. Note the plane’s number – 119. Just like the first plane to be produced was 253, the Negev squadron number.
Also note plane 411, a Negev squadron bird.
Thanks for the series of pics, Erez. They are really neat.
I have a doubt: I did not hear that the opsec rule that forbids mentioning squadron numbers was lifted. Was it?
Ref the effect of the CFTs on RCS, everybody is reasoning like those things were made of radar-reflecting material. I’m not in the secret, ofc, but somehow I doubt that IAI did not think of it before everyone here… 😀
And from Russia …..
Can any one tell me its name?? Link had it all in Russian
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/bratukhin.html
the name is Bratukhin’s SVVP project.
SVVP meaning… VTOL plane. D’oh.
Meat mincer, individual, hi-maintenance, Model DH-4
Another effort in the individual helos field:
The 1956 Meat Mincer, Individual, Hi-maintenance, Model DH-4.
This one is better: it will mince not only the operator, but his buddies as well.
And a squad assault must be really interesting when the wind gusts.
Note that he takes is rifle along, on the sling. Interesting questions again…
At last, I heard that the newer version has found a use: does a great job at sweeping the barracks’ courtyard…
Meat mincer, individual, expensive, hi-maintenance, Model VZ-1
In the history of VTOL effort, there are plenty invidual-helo effort that litter the wayside.
The US Army had a program in the 50s and 60s. Nothing ever came out of it. And helos just work too well…
Look at this Hiller thingy: ain’t it cute? Meat mincer, individual, hi-maintenance, Model VZ-1.
Doesn’t the guy look so happy at the thought of what happens if anything goes wrong?
Any how why this Idea never revived?
Maybe because helicopters work well?
And the rotor does not saw you off in two when you try to enter?
Besides, you can bet on directional stability problems at speed. No doughnut-type craft works that well even with today’s computers. Maybe there’s a learning, somewhere.
TJ, an F-4E (S) was indeed shot down by an SA-8 unit not long after the 1982 war, the Israelis destroyed the wreck while it was being inspected by Soviet experts – duh :rolleyes: – and killed 11 of them.
A F-4 was indeed lost in 82, but AFAIK not a RF-4E(S).
Only 3 RF-4E(S) were ever built, and all three were retired recently (this year in spring, IIRC). Which makes it difficult to reconcile.
Ah, those evil Zionists always make everything difficult. :diablo: :diablo: :diablo:
Damn Zionists… 😀 😀 😀
What the hell this annul gyroscopic effect means?
A mass rotating at high speed has interesting side effects when you try to modify its orientation. Coriolis-type forces spring it back to its original rotation axis. Also polar precession and whatnot.
My 3-d mechanics course was too many decades ago…
SNECMA Coléoptère
While on the subject of VTOL, and of French designs, let me introduce the most futuristic-looking craft IMO:
The SNECMA C-450 Coléoptère was based on the concept of an annular wing centered around a fuselage housing a Snecma Atar turbojet.
Besides the compactness, it was supposed to have all kinds of advantages for manoeuverability, strength/lightness, and whatnot. All the navies would have loved it, too.
Well, the thing was lost during landing approach on its 7th flight. I guess the pilot was lucky the forward speed was negative, he was able to eject to safety. (otherwise, in forward flight, it must raise interesting questions at some speeds :diablo: )
Anybody here is old enough to remember Perry Rhodan? Well, in my mind the fighters that repelled the lizards on Betelgeuse III look like this. Zooom 😀
Yeah, I’m dating myself. I know…
Any How Does any one know more of This french project ??? :confused:
This is the “Soucoupe Volante” (French for Flying Saucer, d’oh! 😀 ) by René Couzinet of France. Built 1955.
Couzinet’s concept was for an “aircraft with multiple wings allowing vertical or horizontal flight”. But the govt refused to finance his research, and he had to abandon the prototype in 1956.
René Couzinet had achieved fame in the 1930s with his “arc-en-ciel” planes.
Here is an aft view of the SV concept.
HTH
DAN
Thanks, Shlomo.
The military always crack me up with their color mannerisms: carefully sudue the bat by using camo colors, but paint a freaking red arrow on the leading edge. I guess boys will be boys…
Nice bat, too. Do you happen to know where to find a pic of the full plane?
DAN
Yemeni F-5 Tigers
Anyone with Yemeni F-5 Tigers?
Here are three.
I need some photos. Help me! 🙂
Egypt – EMB-312
The only one I’ve got
Egyptian Beagle.
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Not to nitpick, but this is actually a MASCOT, not a Beagle.
It’s a Ilyushin 28U, the trainer version.
Thanks to all the posters in this thread. It rocks.
A pic from another thread, that belongs here:
Why didn’t they use the F-4E as the strike element for the raid ?
Range with the required payload.