whats the current state of lebanese and syrian AFs?? do they have BVR M?
Basically the territory of Lebanon is occupied by Syria,
the Lebanese AF has no fighting capability at all, and
Syria is going to make darn sure that it stays this way.
Besides, the state’s finances are not great, and anyway whatever little surplus could be generated would be quickly divvied up between Mr Hariri
the prime Pimpister (aka Mr X%) and his Syrian puppeteers.
As for the Syrian AF, the country was struggling with a heck of strategic challenge on its Southern border (Israel), which is suddenly compounded by unwelcome visitors just butting in on the other side. Aw crap.
All this just at a time when the Saudi sponsors are getting busy elsewhere on their own, the glorious revered dictat^H president-for-life passed away, no heir was available so now Syria just has some meek ophtalmologist to steer itself out of its position as one of the worst lout states.
With the Marines at one door and Tsahal at the other, the Turks on the third, a wrecked economy, a political system about as advanced as Cuba or North Korea, no oil, and an ethnically divided country. Great.
The most productive part of Syria being the protectorate of Lebanon, you can count that the LebAF won’t be in a position to challenge anyone if Assad can help it at all.
As for OphtalmAssad himself, his tallest challenge is how to avoid doing something dumb externally, while still avoiding to be deposed by his own military or mukhabarat (by far the thorniest problem).
Does this answer your question as to the future of the LebAF ?
DAN
(All the above NOT meant to start flames. Just a tongue-in-cheek summary of a dire situation. Lebanon would have SUCH a potential if only it was left to the Lebanese. Blech).
Does anyone know with what weapons were Lebanese Mirages equiped,ie. what was supplied from France.
I believe the Mirage IIIEL were delivered with Matra AAMs. It was the normal armament in the mid-1960s when they received those.
Can’t find supporting evidence though.
DAN
Argentina – I heard that the IIICJ was retired and sent to a museum, i don´t if this information is correct….
Regards
Correct. Here is a pictures of one Argie ex-Israeli Mirage returned to Israel last year. It is now at the Hatzerim museum.
Here is a pic of it last year, still in its FAA colours. IIRC the plan is to restore it to its 1973 IAF colours at some point.
DAN
And finally a few Panteras from Chile.
Hasta luego, khaver.
DAN
I’m lookin’ 4 South American Mirages images.
Some more
DAN
I’m lookin’ 4 South American Mirages images.
And a few more
DAN
I’m lookin’ 4 South American Mirages images.
GUNSHIP
Here are a few.
DAN
Well as it seems US Army used bad tactics in Iraq because Marines didn’t seem to loose a single Cobra
Not correct. At least two AH-1Ws were downed in Iraq:
04/04/2003 – Capt. Benjamin W. Sammis, 29, Capt. Travis A. Ford, 30, were killed in action on April 4 when their AH-1W Super Cobra helicopter crashed during combat operations near Ali Aziziyal, Iraq. (Marine Light Attack Helicopter Squadron (HMLA) – 267, Marine Aircraft Group 39, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing)
Also 14/04/2003, even though I don’t have the details at the mom.
but maybe it’s not just the tactics maybe it could be the helicopter too.
Support to troops on the contact line is not going to run into the same level of massed defenses as a deep penetration assault on a division’s tank concentration will.
Note also that for all the hoopla, only 8-some AH-64s were lost, which does not justify all the criticism. Even during that ill-fated assault that ran into an ambush, only a SINGLE Apache went down. All the others suffered hitd but brought their crews back.
DAN
The LAF these days consists only of 16 helicopters given by the USA as a donation.
Is it known what happened to their Fouga Magisters ?
DAN