i think the potential for better results is there though, none of the 3 recovered ever underwent any kind of corrosion inhibition treatment, so its not too surprising that this one fell apart so quickly once back on dry land.
Never heard of anybody ‘playing’ with avpin,although no doubt somebody has been dumb enough at some stage.
There was a story at Brawdy that some genius decided to start a ‘yellow peril'(single cylinder diesel hand operated,walk with tractor) using avpin to prime the cylinder instead of using engine oil and apparently blowing the head off the damn thing.There was a suitable sized patch in the hangar roof supposedly caused by the cylinder head passing through it…might be true,anybody confirm ??
The nasty thing about avpin is that an extinguisher would not douse flames because it is a monofuel and does not need oxygen to burn.cheers baz
i highly doubt it was a regular occurence but i have heard several reports of it being done, every time Avon engines being the offender
Avpin or Cartridge Start – either was a tentative moment on Hunters at Brawdy… Having someone “ready to beat out the flames” on the Cart start ones didn’t exactly inspire confidence in a young lad like me….. 😮
The most alarming Avpin starting story ive heard was for recalcitrant Hunters & Canberras.
walk up to intake of choice with bucket of Avpin and heave it down the intake, followed by second erk holding a long stick with a burning rag on the end sticking said burning end into the intake to light it!
i do recall that a third erk was usually on standby with a fire cart for when burning Avpin came pouring out the back!
Its not exactly aircraft related but i do have a photograph that my grandfather gave me of the 1945 RAAF 77 squadron cricket team!
I read a while ago about numerous aircraft that were dumped over board near Australia, some still in packing crates. There was talk of recovering some of these aircraft. Does anyone know what happened with this plan?
Thanks.
They were found and investigated, looked like an airfield on the bottom im told, most had theyre wings unfolded and had more or less glided down to the ocean floor, i believe nothing has been recovered as of yet due to the company concerned going bankrupt.
Bugatti Veyron vs. Eurofighter Typhoon spring instantly to mind.
Not to mention throwing a Sea Harrier around the Top Gear test track (to technically become the fastest vehicle to take the course)…
Didnt they also run off an Areil Atom against an Edge 540 around the test track?
here goes
1. F-111C (it was my life dream to fly them, now sadly time has run out)
2. Spitfire
3. CAC Canberra T.21
4. CAC CA-15
5. EE Lightning F.3
Edit: and thats 100 posts for me
In Australia one day I am sure someone will seek to place a “CA-15” on static display, should that be a frame, skin and rivet “reproduction”, or simply an externally accurate FSM?
I personally will be more than satisfied to see the latter.
regards
Mark Pilkington
Personally id love to see a flying reproduction CA-15, by its acheived performance during testing it was pretty much the ultimate in piston engined fighters, 502 mph in level flight with an engine rated some 500hp lower than intended, with flight handling characteristics very similar to a P-51.
Surely it deserves to be resurrected even as a static replica, more as a tribute to Australian engineering capability if nothing else, ditto the Woomera bomber.
This one……..?
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theyve done some sterling work on that! hardly recongnizable from what it looked like when it came off the dump!
Thats my latest !, a lovely little cockpit from Harrier XV806. Originaly a GR1 later modded to GR3 status and based in Germany with 4 Sqn before coming back to the UK to Culdrose before being stripped….literally !…to examine fatigue life for the mid-life upgrade for the GR7 fleet. I have a laser nose and the sliding part of the canopy (less the perspex) but apart from that, what you see is ‘wot I got’ !.
My intention is to clean the framework, fit out the interior but NOT to add any skin. Nope, no cladding, no perspex as a skin, no ali, no nuffink, so’s the interior is not only on display but it gives you a chance to see how a plane is actually built (got the idea from the stripped F86 at the USAF Museum in Dayton last year on the way to GOML 2007)
She needs a bit of work (Nope…it wont be a Legends !) but I’m not in rush on this one as I’m just getting back into working on my Mustang after a break. Got to get this ready for the next ‘Fest as I’m hoping it will have a Warbird theme.
Ritch and Max, PM sent.
Ah exellent! great job your doing there too.
It had me going there for a little while as the structure looked for all the world like the nose section of the Type 544 that was pulled off a fire dump some years back, and a right state it was in too!, having been burnt a few times and the jet was in the process of being scrapped when someone finally realised what it was.
as a side note does anyone have any info and/or piccies of the Type 544 today?
Thats not the remnants of the Supermarine Type 544 cockpit is it?
Well its not entirely complete, theres no engine for a start.
Also the pod looks to be in very poor condition as is the cockpit interior, not liking either the statement that it was stored outside, corrosion appears rampant.
Sorry to labour the point, but I’m wondering why you are going for a Canadair Sabre to represent the RAAF?
CAC Sabres were quite different from other Sabres, because they had a Rolls Royce Avon engine and twin Aden cannon. The engine intake was bigger, with much more ‘suck’, because of the much more powerful engine. We always said our Sabres were the fastest and deadliest of Sabres.
As I understand it, in their wisdom, the Australian government gave the CAC Sabres to Indonesia when the RAAF replaced them with Mirages. So aren’t any still available there?
Bri :confused:
Bri,
it IS a CAC Sabre, A94-983.
You are correct on the Avon and Aden fronts, but in reality a NA or Canadair built Sabre has very little in common with a CAC built example, IIRC CAC redesigned over 70% of the original Sabre to accomodate the Avon and various other improvements, making it effectively a new aircraft.
We passed some of our Sabres to Indonesia and also to the Malaysian AF, the main reason we passed Sabres to Indonesia was to try and improve what were at the time very very strained relations between Australia and Indonesia, as we had more or less come to the brink of war during the 1960’s.
It also benefitted the RAAF as they knew that should it have come to a shooting match again during the Sabre’s service with the TNI-AU that we would have the superior fighter in the form of the Mirage III.
I recall a story on an RAAF Mirage III that got splashed by the gunnery target it had just attacked! apparently it copped an unexploded HE ricochet cannon shell into the middle fuselage where it oh so convieniently detonated, taking a large chunk of ATAR 9C with it.
suffice to say it didnt remain flying for too much longer, pilot ejected and it went down on the range.
also recall one about a pair of A-1 Spads managing to knock down a pair of MiG-17’s or -19’s in Vietnam.
There’s a series of photos on the web somewhere of a Boeing 767 which has a turbine disk failure. The whole disk ejected complete from the engine, through the casing, through the FUSELAGE and into the engine on the OPPOSITE side!
Treat all jet engines with caution. Perhaps a few dry runs would be advisable after as thorough inspection as you can manage. Above all, FOLLOW THE MAINTENANCE MANUAL and pilots notes.
Wasnt there also a DC-10 that spat out the tail mounted engine’s fan stage?
took off most of the vertical tail if i remember correctly