well am resurrecting this thread as ill be passing by the area tomorrow and will get some pics weather permitting
my forum namesake is a Vietnam Veteran, and an even rarer one as she was subsequently modifed for cartographic survey duties
She sat neglected outside the gate at Avalon for many years until they towed her inside for a new paint job and tyres so she could serve as “gate guardian” for the 2011 Airshow, though i do not know what has become of her since
while on the subject of Neptunes, i have some photos about somewhere i took last year of an ex-RAAF Neptune parked in a field next to a highway!
it looks for all the world as if it had flown there too
Blasted camera has deleted itself!!!!!!!
sorry for the wait guys ill get up there again on wednesday hopefully to take some more
I thought the RN ran on tea…:diablo:
Rum, the lash and sodomy according to Churchill
Was the fibreglass strengthened with copper cable, perchance?
engine was held down by an old crane chain too i think
Ok Fantasy time….
There is a lot of well presented information on this site explaining why the CAA would never allow a Lightning to operate in the UK – but what about a Harrier?
Assuming money was no object (It is an £82Million mega draw on the Euro Lottery this weekend afterall), is it a viable proposition for a private individual to own and operate a Harrier in the UK?, and how would you get the necessary training if it was possible.
I know Art Nalls manages it in the US with one he bought from Everett Aero but the Americans do seem to have a slightly different attitude to Jet Warbird ownership than the UK, afterall where else could you buy an SU27 Flanker!.
See reasons against Lightning book thickness and double it!
As for buying an SU-27…
its not what youknow but WHO you know 😉
No, aside from the B-29 (which served in Korea and in other roles until 1960so it qualifies as a “Cold War” aircraft)…which probably has Vulcan-like operating costs (with AVGAS being more expensive than jet fuel).
But to be fair, the B-47s were retired long before anyone was mad enough to ever think about keeping a large complex jet flying.
The B-58 with four J-79s….even the Saudis don’t have enough money for fuel.In the early 70s there was a plan to get the B-36 at Fort Worth airworthy (the plane is now at the Pima Air Museum).
The expense was huge and the USAF was not happy with the prospect of one in civilian hands. Probably not as much about it being used to drop bombs, but the fact that if it ever went down it would wipe out a few blocks and the inevitable legal liabilities.
Surely the RAAF’s F-111 fleet qualifies?
There has been some rumblings that one may find its way onto the civillian circuit though id be amazed if it eventuated
Anyone going to the F-111 retirement ceremony in December?
they are too complex and too high a performance machine to be in private hands
1 when in raf service they were supported by large teams of raf technicians and the factory plus government funding wich in the cold war era was a bottomless pocket !!
not by a small group of idividuals giving cabbies !! ( no matter how skilled you cannot in all seriousness believe a backyard garage can give the same exacting and day to day knoledge standards of a specialist opperating base that used them from new !!
2 it was not without reason our own caa grounded them to stop accidents as they were considdered too hot a machine in private hands and there were concerns about maintainance !!
3 and tragic as it was do we realy need another ramstien to realise they are not suitable aircraft for private hands ( as mentioned it was considdered leathal by regular lightning pilots !! )
fantastic aircraft and no doubt operated to the best of the companys abilitys maybe nursed and maybe looked superb inside and out
but there are so many intricate factory tollerances , stress fatigues , correct metal hardnesses ( for every part !! )
that in all reality you cannot say that all the orriginal knowledge is there for a half cetury old high tech aircraft
i have worked in aerospace engineering specificaly in metal heat treatment
so it could ( not saying it is !! ) but could even be one component slightly off spec
the only way of knowing what has happened without pointing fingers is wait to see what the proffesionals report says when it is finnished !!
your a tit short of an udder sir!
as for your claims to working in Aero Enginineering…..lets just say you shouldnt give that up to become a spell checker.
to call an operation like TC a “backyard garage” operation smacks of ignorance, stupidity, arrogance and a total lack of knowledge in what is involved in maintaining an aircraft.
By your own reasoning, a commercial jetliner is “far too high performance” a machine to be operated in private hands!!
Personally, i think that when you can boast the first hand expierience of maintaining an aircraft such as the Lightning for a decade with an almost flawless safety record you should refrain from embarrassing yourself further.
Very sad to see
Hopefully as has been said before the aircraft can find new homes, be it airworthy or not.
And of course thoughts go to the ground crews who worked brilliantly over the last decade to get and keep TC running, it was truly unique in the world, and of course, all British in its hardware, how long has it been since that last happened?
Its a truly sad loss for historic aviation
Unusual site to make remarks about a Yorkshire port? I think this is a mockup(cockup ?) of a proposed triplane/biplane for a French multiwing fighter,bomber and seaplane glider.:D
a quinplane?
She’s an old lady (77 this year) and, after many years’ slumber in the back of the hangar, understandably needs time to flex her joints again. Any news will, as ever, be posted on the official website as and when….
have to pop a few Arthro-eeze into the fuel now? 😀
Definitely Halifaxes, wing profile is wrong for a Lanc
that wouldnt be an incredibly early Binbrook would it?