3168 hrs after flinal flight into Cranfield in June 1988 is the info I have. Don’t know what it’s FI was though.
thanks Firebird, i seem to recall reading somwhere that a lightning lifed to 4500 flight hours, then theoretically she has 1332 hours remaining
just a curiosity, how many flight hours does XS458 have on her?
One of the good points about the Russian aviation industry, everything’s for sale!
Aha, a simple answer to a simple question – cheers for that chaps! Curiously though, does that seem to be a DV window on the port side as well, now that it is flipped? Perhaps a T.4 or was that T.13, canopy fitted (or maybe it’s my imagination after a few glasses of wine, lol)
And yes, Tim, it breaks my heart to see any old Cans end up this way. I recall being in the Air Scouts at Wyton and begging our troop leader to ‘save’ a cockpit section when the poor old Wyton Cans were being butchered at the end, but alas, no luck.
it appears to be a T.21, basically the Australian equivalent of the T.4 with more powerful engines
Whilst at the Avalon Airshow a RAAF mechanic told me that all of the F-111’s that were not going to the main museums were going to be shredded due to some agreement with the US. Has anyone else heard this? I would have thought it would be relatively easy to make them unusable (cut the wing hinges for example) and it is not like the F-14 where an unfriendly country could obtain spares from the airframes. I would certainly like an escape module if any were to be broken up.
Cheers Paul
not 100% sure about the C models as i believe we purchased them outright, if we did then they arent subject to the “scrap-at-end-of-life” clause very common to US FMS sales contracts.
However the G model was sold under an FMS contract so i believe any examples that are not marked for preservation by a military or government institution must be scrapped/destroyed in some manner
If it hadn.t flown for 2 or so year it would explain why it was chosen to go, but doesnt explain why it was “retired” early.
“Unlikely, thats been one of the great scare tactics used to get rid of the fleet, an F-111 has a fatigue life of some 12,000 hours, meaning -272 would have needed to notch up some 6,300 hours in about 13 years of service to have gone Lifex.“
I agree with you there, but im only repeating what the man with all the bars on his shoulders said… π (not that it means much!)
What ever happened to the one which did the wheels up at Amberley???
I’d be surprised it if was repaired and brought back into service.
The Belly lander is back flying again and has been for some time, reason it was returned to flight is that it is one of only 4 RF-111C’s, the RAAF’s only real tactical recce bird.
The G models were all retired in December 2007 as it was deemed unnessecary to retain them as the were primarily used for conversion training and it was felt that as there were to be no new F-111 aircrew trained due to the type’s impending retirement the G’s could be pensioned off earlier than the more capable C’s
The reason the aircraft was trucked down was that is was cheaper. The equipment and personnel required to remove various pieces of equipment and a number of harmful substances from the aircraft were based at RAAF Amberley. It would have been very expensive to fly the aircraft to Avalon (couldn’t get it into Point Cook) and then transport the team and equipment there to do the job.
It would have had to have been dismantled at Avalon and trucked to Point Cook in any event.
Add the fact that it hadnt flown since December 2007 and had been in open storage
It was reported the aircraft had run out of “airframe” life during one news interview i saw on CH9 news the other night. (A Wing Commander). This is why it was trucked, instead of flown to its new home!
It could very well be fatigued “killed” it sooner then the older “C” models?
Unlikely, thats been one of the great scare tactics used to get rid of the fleet, an F-111 has a fatigue life of some 12,000 hours, meaning -272 would have needed to notch up some 6,300 hours in about 13 years of service to have gone Lifex.
The only item i can think of that may have caused a fatigue issue would have been the wing pivot joint, but again unlikely as all RAAF F-111’s were “zero timed” less than 10 years ago, a process which included fitting a redesigned reinforced new wing set as well as a total redesign and overhaul of the wing pivot system, which included the replacement of all fatigue lifed parts with brand new parts.
The C models are only now approaching 50% of theyre fatigue lives.
No, I don’t know the rationale behind why this particular F-111 was chosen.
It was the 1st G model delivered to the RAAF and also the first F-111 returned to flight after entering AMARG/AMARC
The C model is currently still in service, although tnot for much longer due to bureaucratic wrangling and scare mongering, the RAAF is going to lose one of the most capable long range tactical strike aircraft on the planet, and replace it with what? A glorified insect
Flynz: Thanks very much for the two pics of Canberras in NZ, particularly of A84-240. I’ve got a number of pics of that plane taken in the 60s when she was with 2 Sqn RAAF at Butterworth in Malaya.
240 was one of the Aussie Canberras that served in the war that they fought with the Americans..that we stayed out of, Vietnam.
Operating as part of USAF 35th Tactical Fighter Wing at Phan Rang Air Base. 240 in April 1967 arrived after a 2 hour flight from Butterworth.
2 Sqn RAAF Canberra A84-228 was also based at Phan Rang in Vietnam.
The RAAF serials website has the following info on this one:
On March 14 1971 A84-228 had just started itβs run in on a target north of Khe Sanh when it was hit by a SAM and both crew members were forced to eject, although suffering some injuries in the ejection Wing Cdr Downing and Flt Lt Pinches evaded capture by the Viet Cong and were eventually rescued by a US Army helicopter 27 hours later.
This one is A84-247 that survives at the Australian War Memorial, fittingly in Canberra.
A84-226 survives at RAAF Wagga.
A84-203 was converted from Mk20 to a Mk21 trainer as pictured here.It also survives.
The RAAF serials site says:
Struck off 1985 at Amberley. In RAAF Amberley restoration hangar for most of 2002. Rolled out 12/02 and is waiting to go to PNG Museum. On static display Amberley Airshow 10/04.
Currently at RAAF Amberley, Qld.
A84-225 here at Changi in late 1961, has the tail markings of Nos1 OCU.
It’s history is:
Took part in flight of 5 Canberras on good-will trip to USA 13/05/56 to 06/06/56. Established Perth – Brisbane Record of 3 Hours, 20 Minutes and 5 seconds 01/08/56. Painted in camouflage 06/11/64. Fitted with target towing equipment 27/01/70. Final flight 19/11/70 (crack found in wing spar during routine ultrasonic inspections 17/12/70). Aircraft removed from flight duty with 3395 hours and 15 minutes flight time. It had also completed 636 landings. Struck off 27/07/73 at Amberley. Its final days in service saw orange bands painted around the fuselage just aft of the rear of the nose-wheel doors and to the rear of the wing. These may be to signify a 2g limit placed on airframe (as on A84-224) or may have been added due its target towing usage. Sold to Queensland branch of the Aviation Historical Society of
Australia for $1360.00 21/11/73.
Moved to Queensland Air Museum, Caloundra, Qld. 13/06/86. Repainted in No.1 Sqn colours 10/86.
Currently on display Queensland Air Museum, Caloundra, Qld.That’s the Aussie ones that are of special interest but I’d love to see pictures of any of them today.
I have a few pictures and some more questions about RAF Canberras from that era…I’ll leave those to later!
I have quite a few recent-ish ones of A84-232
Seems any hope of beardy Branson stumping up some cash is utterly squashed by his impending purchase of the ex-Honda F1 team…
One of the prime candidates for noisiest has to be the Tornado. Considering the relatively low power of its engines it produces a noise level totally out of proportion to its installed power.
Ever been near an F-15C or F-111? two very noisy critters there
Are you mixing up the TS II and “Roadrunner” ? I added an older R3-A…the original design and a new 2-seater version ( just in case a customer needs a jet pilot to teach how to fly the vehicle ).
No definitely TS II, reason being that the horizontal stab looks to be set at a height where there would be the possibility of at least partial if not full tailplane blanking at certain AoA, i have a reasonable grasp on aerodynamics but i could be wrong.
A84-232:
“We never used Gannets”One from HMAS Melbourne…but no idea what the seats were like!
(reminder to myself-I must feed you Oz Canberra freaks some pics of the Butterworth Canberras-pre-war…you Aussies know which war..the one you fought with the Yanks that we stayed out of!)
David T
Gets coat with incredibly large amounts of egg on face….